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Best free kicker ever ?

Ugur Yildirim was quite a good freekick taker when he was at Heerenveen.

He managed to win a freekick tournament back in the 2005, which included Zidane and Beckham.
 
In the above instance Johnny Met a terrible defense, a terrible wall and a piss poor keeper......as opposed to god.

Maybe another example would be more helpful?
 
vanzandt said:
In the above instance Johnny Met a terrible defense, a terrible wall and a piss poor keeper......as opposed to god.

Maybe another example would be more helpful?
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Umm thats the only example i know of mate.... shall i close the door on the way out?

;)

ps - Phil Parkes is a West Ham legend with a tache that could make grown men cry

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vanzandt said:
In the above instance Johnny Met a terrible defense, a terrible wall and a piss poor keeper......as opposed to god.
Maybe another example would be more helpful?
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Believe me Vanzandt, Johnny took a mean free kick, not the most elegant player, but very usefull..

And the argument i quoted above....every fantastic goal can be considered a defensive error...take two examples (not free kicks): Maradonna's goal against England and the famous Saudi Arabia goal against Belgium at the 1994 free kick...one could argumentthat a "good" i.e. cynical defender would have fouled these players and there would never have been a fantastic goal...
 
vanzandt said:
In the above instance Johnny Met a terrible defense, a terrible wall and a piss poor keeper......as opposed to god.

Maybe another example would be more helpful?
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Mate, as said above, I think you will find that Phil Parkes was about as far away from a 'piss poor keeper' as you will ever get mate ;)

Was a world record fee for a goalkeeper when we signed him and he repaid any fee 10-fold.
Sheer class and would be in just about everyone's all time West Ham team.
:)
 
Yes mate. He only got 1 cap though, due to a fallout with the England manager at the time who promised to play him, but retracted and changed his mind.
Late 70's and 80's, he was one of the very top keepers in the country, and was in very good company too.

What vanzandt said was akin to an unknown South American chap asking who that fat bastard is in goal for Everton in their 80's team, saying he is so scruffy and must be well shit! :lol: ;)
 
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On the free kick in question....in that moment the keeper was piss poor, just as the defense were.

I was not commenting on the entire career of all those defenders and keeper or commenting upon them in the general as a collective unit.

I watched Parkes play for about 10 years myself and I know he was USUALLY a very good keeper.

I have put the operative word in caps.

But please don't tell me that he wasn't piss poor in that instant, cause he was.

So I am not making the slight that any of you guys think I am....not doing that at all in fact.

gerd said:
Believe me Vanzandt, Johnny took a mean free kick, not the most elegant player, but very usefull..
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I don't doubt that at all, just a poor example.

gerd said:
And the argument i quoted above....every fantastic goal can be considered a defensive error...take two examples (not free kicks): Maradonna's goal against England and the famous Saudi Arabia goal against Belgium at the 1994 free kick...one could argumentthat a "good" i.e. cynical defender would have fouled these players and there would never have been a fantastic goal...
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I know where you are coming from but I personally don't buy into that argument at all. I think you look at a goal from a balanced perspective and ask yourself how much was down to great attacking play and how much was down to error and you have a pretty firm answer on certain goals.

I don't think there is any argument for saying that Maradona's goal was due to defensive frailty/errors. I think that argument would be so laughably poor that it would not even be worth arguing with anyone who was postulating it.

And the same can be said with many, many goals one way or the other.
 
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Excuse me bro but what da hell is a wall going to do against that!!! :D

Still because of the curve I think Roberto Carlos freekick is the best of all time.

Almost against physics: I still think a last minute wind might have contributed to that curve.
 
Nart Saga said:
Excuse me bro but what da hell is a wall going to do against that!!! :D

Still because of the curve I think Roberto Carlos freekick is the best of all time.

Almost against physics: I still think a last minute wind might have contributed to that curve.
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i meant if that guy had a wall againsta that shot it might have been hit the wall .. and yes r.carlos is a good example of a legendary free kick, wall was set and the curve could have at least get past few more walls :mrgreen:
 
i remember the free kick against aberdeen(in the vid) it was the pace on the ball that was amazing.... when scotland got together the aberdeen keeper jim leighton said to cooper i nearly got my hand to that and cooper said yes on the way back out..... hahahahaha
 
Nakamura, Beckham, Juninho (Lyon), These 3 lads where born with a special talent...:applause:
 
ThomasGOAL said:
look the last replay, ball trajectory
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These crazy trajectories are also because nowadays footbal is played with much lighter balls, i'm pretty sure that great free kick specialists of the past like Rivelinho, could have done the same thing with nowadays balls...

But of course, Juninho is one of the all-time greats.

Thomas, are there other big FK specialists in Ligue 1 ????
 
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