cfdh_edmundo said:
Milo` said:
I would be the first to admit if Ruud had done a single thing wrong but this time he is completely in the clear. If you want to see what a cheat would have done in that situation you only have to look at someone like Rivaldo who would have dropped to the floor covering his face with both hands (f*ck, he even did that when someone kicked the ball tamely at his shin at the WC last year).
But the point is RVN does stuff like that in virtually every game, diving complaining and virtually telling the ref what to do. You even have a subtle acknowledgement to this when you say "
this time he is completely clear" implying that he often errs. Hes as much of a cheat as Rivaldo. What Keown et al did was wrong, but I would be telling a lie if I said I felt sorry for Van Nistleroy, it would be much more disgraceful had it happend to say Fortune or O'Shea, who are, by and large honest players, something Van Nistleroy certainly is not.
I couldn't agree more with the above statement. During last season, i wished we had the Ferdinand, Silvestre, Brown defensive line. Along with O'Shea who has better feet than the Romford Pele, i was thinking this is the one thing that Arsenal were missing in a long time. Sure enough i'm a gooner for life, but even i am not that naive to think we have a case for "defence" in the Champ League.
However, even knowing how volatile a player like Vieira is, surely is was a sickening ploy by RVN to jump up with knee in back and then have a slight dig. I mean everyone saw it!! Even the Sky studio's crew. However, all respect to that c*nt of a referee, he was behind RVN when the contact occured and seen the contact, but judged there to be sufficient reason to believe so due to the amateur dramatics of a certain glassed ankled Dutch striker.
If per chance say Bergkamp had done the exact same thing to Roy Keane, then what would the critics say? After Pires diving.. More Arsenal cheating? Now Pires is a class player, and i don't condone his diving. I mean he did get caught in Valencia a couple of years ago (yellow card.. u naughty boy!!!

), but i agree that week in week out, RVN goes on his merry go round to try to antagonise defenders - both physically and mentally.
I remember the melee that occured when the Man Utd players ran after Steffan Freud a couple of seasons ago. As an Arsenal fan, i was putting money on who would catch him first, but nothing happened prior to the game in terms of fines etc.. oh no! The blatant premeditated attack on Haaland by Keane "take that you C*nt!"... all because Keane tried to foul him when Haaland was at Leeds and ended up spiking turf which led to ripped cruciates. For a club to condone these acts as heat of the matter and then to try to point out another teams failings is hypocrisy of the nth degree.
I don't condone what our players did at the end of the match, but you got to hand it to Wenger to notice the RVN factor. I think Wenger should go and talk to his players about trying to be calmer in the face of animosity. But the kind of pressure they were under to force a result after the Inter game, you could only justify that it was a fuse needing a match, and that was RVN!!
p.s. i wish Keown had a gun.. blam blam.
i'd always support the bad boys over the "protected" boys anyday. It only deepens my hate for an already loveless club....