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trenchak47 said:
Was peoples thoughts efootball master league being a paid dlc?
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Depends on several variables.

1, Is the Free game going to be a full worthy base to invest time in playing ML ?
2, What leagues & Cups are going to be in ML ?
3, Is it going to be full ML as we know it, or with unlockable content or even pay more coins ?
4, Will Teams & kits & players & emblems be editable?

I suspect in real terms we are quite a way off getting ML in this game.

I had 3 months playing PES2021 on IPad , to the point where I put it down and decided enough was enough.
I feel much the same in relation to efootball. It has no longevity or immersion for Me.

Incidentally I find loot boxes and coin selling rotten to the commercial core of these companies.
 
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Heck, I would even be willing to spend a couple of bucks on a online mode like Divisions with REAL teams.
 
Isslander said:
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I think it's pretty clear what the money is going into, since these professionals have no problems whatsoever with looking like absolute wankers
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Reminds me of Jorge Campos's outfits

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skickahit10 said:
Reminds me of Jorge Campos's outfits

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Campos outfit attitude: "Look at me w***er, I'm a little guy but I'm gonna stop all those hard top corner sharp kicks of yours !!!"

eFootball's outfits: "Let's start that reggaeton via tik-tok in our new diverse neon pijama party !!!"

If I'll need to chose between Campos outfit and eFootball, the first one at least looks more focused on FOOTBALL (and by that I mean legit football), even if that color theme fits better for stealth involving stealing a christmas tree.
 
trenchak47 said:
Was peoples thoughts efootball master league being a paid dlc?
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I don't think it's ever gonna see the light. Even in the case, I bet it will be a barebones, half cooked thing they'll promise to improve on and won't significantly touch ever again in depth.

Yeah unless some incredible change happens and this "dlc" somehow turns in a polished, independent game that won't go away or won't be replaced or won't be subject to your usual online only products shenanigans with the next update, I'll not gonna touch it with a stick.
 
superleeds1 said:
Depends on several variables.

1, Is the Free game going to be a full worthy base to invest time in playing ML ?
2, What leagues & Cups are going to be in ML ?
3, Is it going to be full ML as we know it, or with unlockable content or even pay more coins ?
4, Will Teams & kits & players & emblems be editable?

I suspect in real terms we are quite a way off getting ML in this game.

I had a 3 months playing PES2021 on IPad , to the point where I put it down and decided enough was enough.
I feel much the same in relation to efootball. It has no longevity or immersion for Me.

Incidentally I find loot boxes and coin selling rotten to the commercial core of these companies.
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Logical thing would be a one-off cost to buy Master League as an added mode, then each season after a smaller fee to allow for yearly squad updates for the offline modes.
 
Flipper the Priest said:
Not sure how anyone can have any hope for Master League based on Konami's antics in the past two years.
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I can honestly see them dumping the whole idea soon.
Initially there was a big backlash and uproar. Now a lot of people just moved on. Konami is trying to milk people while they still can.
What would Master League DLC give them? Nothing really. Few bob thats all.
And then there is maintaining the content, yearly updates, people who will be disappointed with whatever shit they eventually decide to release...
It seems like a lot of headache for nothing really.
Why not show a fat middle finger to all offline players and put an end to their suffering? We are all toxic anyways.
 
Emroth said:
I can honestly see them dumping the whole idea soon.
Initially there was a big backlash and uproar. Now a lot of people just moved on. Konami is trying to milk people while they still can.
What would Master League DLC give them? Nothing really. Few bob thats all.
And then there is maintaining the content, yearly updates, people who will be disappointed with whatever shit they eventually decide to release...
It seems like a lot of headache for nothing really.
Why not show a fat middle finger to all offline players and put an end to their suffering? We are all toxic anyways.
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It's a relatively easy buck. Offline players, and there's a lot of them, will think 100 times before putting a dime in Dream Team, but will drop $40 in a heartbeat for offline modes, esp that FIFA's offline AI is as dull as a rock, and given how much more fun Legend AI is in EF compared to PES.

It's not risk free, though. Offline modes take players away from their online money maker modes. Even if I won't pay online, I'm still an extra player available who can make matchmaking faster. Less online players is bad, even if they're not paying for coins.

So while I see it coming, I don't think they'll pull the trigger on it before the January transfers are in, and probably not before cross play is available, so that the hit to the online player base is not significant.
 
Emroth said:
I can honestly see them dumping the whole idea soon.
Initially there was a big backlash and uproar. Now a lot of people just moved on. Konami is trying to milk people while they still can.
What would Master League DLC give them? Nothing really. Few bob thats all.
And then there is maintaining the content, yearly updates, people who will be disappointed with whatever shit they eventually decide to release...
It seems like a lot of headache for nothing really.
Why not show a fat middle finger to all offline players and put an end to their suffering? We are all toxic anyways.
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Been saying it; they should just rip the bandaid off and not do what EA did with NBA Live.
 
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But there are ways you could make money from off-line players, content, and big thing is if can sell space. E.g Like add more faces, nets, leagues buying space, master league has so much potential. They should let pc players run free, mod how ever they want. But sell space package.
 
Epic cards and highlight cards with a higher progression ceiling means players with 70 rated players are no match for these superstars. I also love it when people defend this game mechanic by stating "you don't have to spend money to play this game". No you don't. If you enjoy grinding GP 10 hours a day against teams that will destroy you with their legends, or against the AI in a mode that's a fucking bore fest, then you're the kind of fool Coinami wants. Whether you want to or not, Coinami will get you to spend some money on coins.

The_Knight said:
It's a relatively easy buck. Offline players, and there's a lot of them, will think 100 times before putting a dime in Dream Team, but will drop $40 in a heartbeat for offline modes, esp that FIFA's offline AI is as dull as a rock, and given how much more fun Legend AI is in EF compared to PES.

It's not risk free, though. Offline modes take players away from their online money maker modes. Even if I won't pay online, I'm still an extra player available who can make matchmaking faster. Less online players is bad, even if they're not paying for coins.

So while I see it coming, I don't think they'll pull the trigger on it before the January transfers are in, and probably not before cross play is available, so that the hit to the online player base is not significant.
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If that's the case, then there no incentive in making offline modes
 
Why would Konami even release ML and other modes any time soon? They already "scammed" us with PES 21, which was nothing more than a mere gameplay patch sold for 30€. But people, including me, bought it because we were expecting a true next gen game the following year. Because that was what Konami told us they were going to release. Sometimes I think, people really try to forget this point.
In my opinion the existence of efootball alone is a slap to the face of every PES Fan. Just because the way Konami lied to everyone.

But even now with efootball you have so many players, that are still playing this game, while waiting to get more offline content. But while playing the game, they are spending real money on coins...
Konami is making money with this mobile game and they have absolutely no reason to change things. If you want a proper game, you should stop supporting this game in its current state. Especially with your money.
 
Colon said:
Why would Konami even release ML and other modes any time soon? They already "scammed" us with PES 21, which was nothing more than a mere gameplay patch sold for 30€. But people, including me, bought it because we were expecting a true next gen game the following year. Because that was what Konami told us they were going to release. Sometimes I think, people really try to forget this point.
In my opinion the existence of efootball alone is a slap to the face of every PES Fan. Just because the way Konami lied to everyone.

But even now with efootball you have so many players, that are still playing this game, while waiting to get more offline content. But while playing the game, they are spending real money on coins...
Konami is making money with this mobile game and they have absolutely no reason to change things. If you want a proper game, you should stop supporting this game in its current state. Especially with your money.
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Agree with most of this but I do think there should be less moral force to that "should" in the last bit. I mean, people probably should stop supporting the game as a matter of practical wisdom for themselves; as a matter of ethics, though, the responsibility for this franchise being what it is falls on capital.

It is the multi billion dollar company who is at fault for this money-grabbing terrible excuse for a game. It is more broadly on the shoulders of an entire industry which has innovated itself in the last ten, fifteen years to successively extract as much profit for as little effort as possible. Blame the casino not the gamblers.

Edit: I also think the idea which goes in tandem with this responsibility is also off: sadly, we cannot change this industry paradigm by "voting with our wallets" etc.
 
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Ameppe said:
It's too much work. Probably the efootball dev team is composed of

1 person working on servers
1 person working on database
1 person working on UI graphics, animations
1 person working on ingame graphics
1 person working on gameplay
1 person working on Dream team events
1 person working on licensing

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Seriously though, have you tried scrolling the credits? There is no developer mentioned there.
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Don't forget the person working on the apology messages
 
janguv said:
Agree with most of this but I do think there should be less moral force to that "should" in the last bit. I mean, people probably should stop supporting the game as a matter of practical wisdom for themselves; as a matter of ethics, though, the responsibility for this franchise being what it is falls on capital.

It is the multi billion dollar company who is at fault for this money-grabbing terrible excuse for a game. It is more broadly on the shoulders of an entire industry which has innovated itself in the last ten, fifteen years to successively extract as much profit for as little effort as possible. Blame the casino not the gamblers.

Edit: I also think the idea which goes in tandem with this responsibility is also off: sadly, we cannot change this industry paradigm by "voting with our wallets" etc.
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I still don't see the wrong in the original "If you want a proper game, you should stop supporting this game in its current state. Especially with your money" statement.

It's not a statement about morality or ethics. It's just rational decision making. It makes zero sense to give a company any money if you no longer like where they're going or what you currently get in return. It's simply not actively supporting products you claim you don't want or like.

Yeah, not giving them my money today does not guarantee I'll get a "proper game" in return any time soon, but it's an essential baby step and the only thing I can do. The alternative, actually giving them money, is just daft in comparison.
 
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pesfooty29 said:
Epic cards and highlight cards with a higher progression ceiling means players with 70 rated players are no match for these superstars. I also love it when people defend this game mechanic by stating "you don't have to spend money to play this game". No you don't. If you enjoy grinding GP 10 hours a day against teams that will destroy you with their legends, or against the AI in a mode that's a fucking bore fest, then you're the kind of fool Coinami wants. Whether you want to or not, Coinami will get you to spend some money on coins.
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What does it mean mechanic ? what is the relationship between coins and mechanics ?
you are complaining about "you don't have to spend money to play this game" when you are supporting "if you want to win spend money".
It is an online game it means there is events it means you can build a team without buying coins and if you want a "favorite" team that includes your favorite players there is no mechanics here it is your taste so you need to spend .

EDIT : and clearly you are one of many that build teams by player names so it is your taste here and you don't want to spend money it is your decision and you feel that there is a magnetic power from the game that wants you to buy it is an illusion if you feel that you want to spend money it means there is player or pack you like or you love so it is your choice .
 
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manmachine said:
I still don't see the wrong in the original "If you want a proper game, you should stop supporting this game in its current state. Especially with your money" statement.

It's not a statement about morality or ethics. It's just rational decision making. It makes zero sense to give a company any money if you no longer like where they're going or what you currently get in return. It's simply not actively supporting products you claim you don't want or like.

Yeah, not giving them my money today does not guarantee I'll get a "proper game" in return any time soon, but it's an essential baby step and the only thing I can do. The alternative, actually giving them money, is just daft in comparison.
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In the end for the final consumer it's a psychological thing... some are weak towards the "brand" itself and some are aware (but are very few). With FIFA happens the same: millions of people are seeing a "gameplay" trailer with pre-rendered cutscenes making consumers to embark into the hype train preordering even those ultimate editions months before the release, then when the game releases after some weeks they'll get frustrated bashing it on social media or forums on how bad the gameplay is, then another FIFA trailer releases with another hype and finishes with a new preorder, microtransactions... It's a cycle made towards homo-sapiens liking football as a sport and everything related to it, and its purchased for various reasons: some are just ok with seeing that the number is changing to 2023 with kits/roster updates, others will also dive deep into the casino coz' it's addictive, and paid influencers/youtubers/streamers will continue to promote it maintaining some hype raised including even rewards in those videos, securing this way the next seasonal version... It's not a video game anymore, it's a business model made for investors to generate just revenue in those bank accounts...
 
etb10dmk said:
In the end for the final consumer it's a psychological thing... some are weak towards the "brand" itself and some are aware (but are very few). With FIFA happens the same: millions of people are seeing a "gameplay" trailer with pre-rendered cutscenes making consumers to embark into the hype train preordering even those ultimate editions months before the release, then when the game releases after some weeks they'll get frustrated bashing it on social media or forums on how bad the gameplay is, then another FIFA trailer releases with another hype and finishes with a new preorder, microtransactions... It's a cycle made towards homo-sapiens liking football as a sport and everything related to it, and its purchased for various reasons: some are just ok with seeing that the number is changing to 2023 with kits/roster updates, others will also dive deep into the casino coz' it's addictive, and paid influencers/youtubers/streamers will continue to promote it maintaining some hype raised including even rewards in those videos, securing this way the next seasonal version... It's not a video game anymore, it's a business model made for investors to generate just revenue in those bank accounts...
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Of course, I understand that. Well except the brand loyalty, lol. That's just childish. But yeah, in the end it comes down to the consumer being ok with what they get in return. I can't say to anyone that just getting new rosters is not enough if it's enough for them. If someone is ok with just seeing the number changing to 2023 who am I to say he shouldn't be ok.

Some might even like FUT/Dream Team. And that's ok too. But there are those who don't like what they're getting and in this case not wasting your money is the only thing you can do. Even if it doesn't lead to change. The alternative verges on insanity in my view, a bit like hating super-hero movies but buying a ticket to see them all the time, hoping that giving them money will convince the studio to make a film noir next.
 
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etb10dmk said:
It's not a video game anymore, it's a business model made for investors to generate just revenue in those bank accounts...
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Unsavory truth: Video games have always been business investments made to generate money. Except maybe freeware from the 1990s made as passion projects, but even those are precursors to money-generating projects.

The issue here is that they discovered from experience with EA's FUT and MyClub that online makes more money. So their business model clashes with what offline players like myself would want. I can only *hope* that when they implement crossplay, they wouldn't be concerned about offline causing a hit to online player numbers in a way that impacts its appeal.

EA doesn't have this issue because they have a way, way, way bigger player base they aren't worried about offline modes cannibalizing their online player base.
 
manmachine said:
Of course, I understand that. Well except the brand loyalty, lol. That's just childish. But yeah, in the end it comes down to the consumer being ok with what they get in return. I can't say to anyone that just getting new rosters is not enough if it's enough for them. If someone is ok with just seeing the number changing to 2023 who am I to say he shouldn't be ok.

Some might even like FUT/Dream Team. And that's ok. But there are those who don't like what they're getting and in this case not wasting your money is the only thing you can do. Even if it doesn't lead to change. The alternative verges on insanity in my view, a bit like hating super-hero movies but buying a ticket to see them all the time, hoping that giving them money will convince the studio to make a film noir next.
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Agree, but the main problem nowadays is that consumers with high expectations who doesn't like what they're getting (without spending again on yearly basis of course) are very low in number, and making the math, those actions will not hurt a corporation like EA that much. I think those that are spending they're not even aware of that (coz' those blink-blink features in those modes), especially if the main audience isn't formed by 25-30+ years adults, and when they're not into the game they're watching some type of favorite streamer who will manipulate and lead them to some illusory virtual "glory". And yes, the super hero movie example feels accurate, especially for those thinking as "...let's not judge the game until then !!!" or as "...I gave Koinami moneh, buyed some coins coz' I feel this version it's full of potential, so let's hope they'll make eFootball great !!!"
 
One more sleep until eFootball 2023 people. Anyone else giddy with excitement? Just like the good ol' days of PES release days... just missing the shopto early deliveries though.
 
Hello there, not been on here for a jolly long while. Possibly a year even, where does the time go? Same place as my hairline I guess..

Anyway this is a bit of a TLDR (which I recently found out what that means - and as an old person, finding out what newer terms mean gives me a ruddy hard on. Also found out what to ‘stan’ something means too and it made me want to rip my lungs out). Anyway tangent aside, here’s the TLDR (look fellow kids there I go again)

I stopped playing eFootball about 3 minutes into its original release, yep didn’t even make it to half time. Now back then the game played like arse and not only had zero offline activities, it also had about 9 teams in it. I think the term used was ‘Demo Like Experience’.

Now I noticed people like B-Man started liking, then disliking the online game. But what’s the current state in general. Offline I gather is a non entity, but did they ever open up more teams? Was it worth anything at all as an offliner? Can I play a match with my mates? Is there any editing? On PC have modders performed miracles? Why are dominos pizza so expensive? Who shot JR?

You know, the key questions. Many thanks.
 
What a sad state of affairs. I think the excitement of waiting for the new PES to drop through the letterbox had dipped the last few years anyway but tomorrow we're going to be treated to some new kits for a handful of teams. Considering Pes 2021 was just a roster update, the last proper release was 30th July 2019. That's 37 months ago and what do they have to show for it? A game that is at best on par with pes 2021 in terms of gameplay but still so far behind in terms of everything else. What a crying shame.
 
TommyC0ckles said:
Now I noticed people like B-Man started liking, then disliking the online game. But what’s the current state in general. Offline I gather is a non entity, but did they ever open up more teams? Was it worth anything at all as an offliner? Can I play a match with my mates? Is there any editing? On PC have modders performed miracles?
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The way I look at eFoorball is a personal way. I have my opinion about it and it doesn't matter what B-Man thinks or C-Man does.
You can hate it for (a) valid reason(s) and you can also like it for some other valid reason(s).
I don't play it online, only had like 2 pvp games 4 months ago. But few days ago I entered the vs AI "starter" event currently going on. I have a team of mostly J League players (max 10k G or whever purple points that I accumulated for free just logging in). I hate playing 5 star teams myself full of C. Ronaldo, Salah, Mane and Romario with D. Beckham.
Offline (pure offline) is still 9 limited teams only. But I am on PC so master race never stops at playing 9 teams only (at least unofficially)
Worth it or not it depends on whom you're asking. Some people get satisfied with a McDonald's burger and some only insist on spending the night at the Ritz with dinner gala and next day breakfast.
Without you fire it on and try for yourself you're not gonna know. This is something you have to try and tell us
 
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