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Manchester United Thread

Speaking of him being a crazy old man, let's have a quick look at our midfields in our last 7 league defeats:

Newcastle 0-3 - Carrick/Giggs
Wigan 0-1 - Carrick/Giggs
City 0-1 - Carrick/Scholes/Giggs
Everton 0-1 - Cleverley/Scholes
Spurs 2-3 - Carrick/Scholes/Giggs
Norwich 0-1 - Carrick/Giggs
City 1-2 - Carrick/Giggs

Now admittedly I'm a statistician by profession, so for mere mortals it might be tough, but there's a pattern there. I'm not going to ruin it for anyone, it's like those magic eye images.
 
beachryan said:
Speaking of him being a crazy old man, let's have a quick look at our midfields in our last 7 league defeats:

Newcastle 0-3 - Carrick/Giggs
Wigan 0-1 - Carrick/Giggs
City 0-1 - Carrick/Scholes/Giggs
Everton 0-1 - Cleverley/Scholes
Spurs 2-3 - Carrick/Scholes/Giggs
Norwich 0-1 - Carrick/Giggs
City 1-2 - Carrick/Giggs

Now admittedly I'm a statistician by profession, so for mere mortals it might be tough, but there's a pattern there. I'm not going to ruin it for anyone, it's like those magic eye images.
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You need to stop playing Carrick.....;))
 
beachryan said:
Speaking of him being a crazy old man, let's have a quick look at our midfields in our last 7 league defeats:

Newcastle 0-3 - Carrick/Giggs
Wigan 0-1 - Carrick/Giggs
City 0-1 - Carrick/Scholes/Giggs
Everton 0-1 - Cleverley/Scholes
Spurs 2-3 - Carrick/Scholes/Giggs
Norwich 0-1 - Carrick/Giggs
City 1-2 - Carrick/Giggs

Now admittedly I'm a statistician by profession, so for mere mortals it might be tough, but there's a pattern there. I'm not going to ruin it for anyone, it's like those magic eye images.
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Should we 'like' and 'share' when we get it?
 
:)) Well that was a crappy weekend and Monday, hopefully we can go back to grinding out those results.
 
If we don't sign a solid, young, hopefully world-class in the making midfielder (and pretty please maybe another winger if Nani or Valencia leaves) in the summer and Mourinho returns to Chelski, I'll throw the towel in the ring before the next season even starts.
 
dplane said:
If we don't sign a solid, young, hopefully world-class in the making midfielder (and pretty please maybe another winger if Nani or Valencia leaves) in the summer and Mourinho returns to Chelski, I'll throw the towel in the ring before the next season even starts.
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Agreed, and the best bit is.. fergie is again targeting a STRIKER over the positions we need (if the papers are to be believed) I am seriously beginning to wonder if he's stuck in 2006-7 believing we need to replace van Nistelrooy at the end of every season!!
 
That away day in Milan was pretty painful too. Shame this season has literally fizzled out, yet were still on course to win the title but literally have no buzz left because of our position.

hopefully the player's don't feel that way and we keep scraping through to the finish line. :ANX:
 
This season isn't over, Stoke is make or break if they grind out a draw or a win then city win the race will be blown straight back up, painful as it would be I can see us slipping up to the point of losing on the Final Day, by the means of our GD again.. haunting to think its a possibility, albeit a slim one.
 
Rooney as AMF today is wonderful to see. Kagawa on the wing seems interesting..looks like he was told to pull inside and doing a lot of running as a result of it. With this wind we probably don't want to rely on crosses over the flanks anyway. Based on the lineup today SAF is looking to tear Stoke apart, let's hope it works. Were due for a blowout victory after the past let downs!
 
Much better performance from the lads today. Controlled.

Stoke were fucking abysmal and the sooner they fuck off out of the Prem the better for everyone concerned.

Great to see RVP finally end his dry spell even if it was a penalty, even better to see him celebrate with SAF and all the staff.
 
Phil Jones is going to be some player

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matherto said:
Great to see RVP finally end his dry spell even if it was a penalty, even better to see him celebrate with SAF and all the staff.
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with there was a vid of the entire celebration, it's nice to see that kind of positive emotion in the game. One does wonder if Wenger saw this and was painfully reminded of all the man hugs RvP used to give him instead.

And I agree about Jones..he's a beast. It's easy to forget how young he still is. If he continuous to improve he can become a big one for us.
 
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I dont think this has anything else ,but the fact he scored a goal. I`m sure Mutd fans are seeing the deep loving emotions RVP has for the club. I think Wenger is happier that he bought RVP 1.5 m and sold him for 24m !:))

In 2 years he`ll be playing for Sunderland and that`s the truth whether he was at Arsenal or MUTD !
Seeing that hug looks more awkward for SAF :LOL:
 
Its awkward to see that despite the hug every man across the globe saw, RvP left Sir Alex Ferguson hanging for a hi5 that's a transfer request if ever I saw one :P
 
Taylor_94 said:
Its awkward to see that despite the hug every man across the globe saw, RvP left Sir Alex Ferguson hanging for a hi5 that's a transfer request if ever I saw one :P
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Haha..sadly enough that wouldn't even surprise me that much with SAF. Kinda funny though SAF himself said Robin could have killed him with that.

Guess its looking likely United can clinch the title against Arsenal. Oh sweet irony. Would RvP not celebrate again? (i have a slight weak spot for the Gunners however so hope we don't have to rub it in against them..especially BC I could actually see us lose that game, and it would be nicer to take it at Old Trafford):BRMM:
 
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Well suckernet seem to have gone all out on this Rooney to PSG thing... whats you manc fans take on it?

Has Rooney's relationship with SAF really down the drain? Is his wages causing the owner's bellyache?

Is there any truth in the rumours or is suckernet spinning a yearn again?
 
niharjhatn said:
Well suckernet seem to have gone all out on this Rooney to PSG thing... whats you manc fans take on it?

Has Rooney's relationship with SAF really down the drain? Is his wages causing the owner's bellyache?

Is there any truth in the rumours or is suckernet spinning a yearn again?
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No, just no is the general idea, Rooney strikes me a the type of player who has ambitions with his career, PSG is a step down in leagye and club quality and I don't think he'd go there. If Barca or Bayern came calling then thwres more chance butUnited are safe so long as Rooney hasn't gone out of his way to leave the club and PSG are the only club chasing down his signature.
 
The PSG stuff makes some sense, but all the sounds I hear from England say Rooney is staying, and wants a new contract to boot.

I'm a big fan of Rooney on the pitch and would be delighted if he stays and sorts his fitness out, but could see Fergie getting rid. Especially if there's any truth to these bizarre Falcao rumors.

If we buy another friggin striker instead of a midfielder I'm officially declaring Fergie senile.
 
beachryan said:
The PSG stuff makes some sense, but all the sounds I hear from England say Rooney is staying, and wants a new contract to boot.

I'm a big fan of Rooney on the pitch and would be delighted if he stays and sorts his fitness out, but could see Fergie getting rid. Especially if there's any truth to these bizarre Falcao rumors.

If we buy another friggin striker instead of a midfielder I'm officially declaring Fergie senile.
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Continue to mold Rooney into an AMF... Play RvP behind Falcao (a role he is used to playing) .. Bam, 1,2,3 punch :-)
 
I don't think Rooney will ever be a truly world class central midfielder - he's just not a specialist there. He can do a job without a doubt - he's that good - but as a club we have hte highest revenue in the world. We shouldn't be looking to convert strikers, centre backs and left wingers into central midfielders.

Also, Falcao's goals/assist per minute ratio this season is actually LOWER than Hernandez. So there's some food for thought.
 
beachryan said:
I don't think Rooney will ever be a truly world class central midfielder - he's just not a specialist there. He can do a job without a doubt - he's that good - but as a club we have hte highest revenue in the world. We shouldn't be looking to convert strikers, centre backs and left wingers into central midfielders.

Also, Falcao's goals/assist per minute ratio this season is actually LOWER than Hernandez. So there's some food for thought.
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Hmm, except Hernandez would probably have lower ratios if he also played every minute.. I don't know so don't take it as fact but I'd assume Falcao has played many more minutes than Herndez.
 
Taylor_94 said:
Hmm, except Hernandez would probably have lower ratios if he also played every minute.. I don't know so don't take it as fact but I'd assume Falcao has played many more minutes than Herndez.
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Yeah I agree. Goal:minute is a poor stat that doesn't really convey anything at all really.

I think Falcao offers an incredible aerial threat that United haven't had for a while. Both are great finishers, although Falcao has that tremendous long range shot as well. He's a lot more dimensional than most other strikers in the world (certainly more than Chicharito). He's pretty good at picking the ball up a bit higher up the pitch, taking a couple of steps and then hitting a longer ball for teammates too.

But I just don't see where united are gonna hit him in, unless (as was suggested earlier) united move to 2 upfront with RVP playing behind him. That front two will just be crazy.

It seems Atletico are desperately trying to sell him to a non-Spanish (i.e. non-Madrid :D) team, so maybe united can get a decent deal.

Regarding Rooney... I always thought he would be a better Attacking mid than where he used to play upfront. His passing is incredible... but SAF has a bit of a logjam especially with Kagawa and he's been shuffling them on to the left side/right side/center trying to find the sweetest combination.

I dunno - UTD have so much depth in terms of attacking players its incredible. I don't think its particularly cheap either. A lot of talent being wasted on the bench. I imagine Rooney wants a continuation of his original contract... but Man U will try and drop the price as much as possible given he is starting barely half the time. Opens the door for PSG certainly. Probably time for SAF to do a little spring cleaning, and shore up the center of the park/defence instead.
 
Isco is the guy to get at the minute for us IMO, the Falcao thing is basically to drum up interest from Chelsea and Man City.
 
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