Arsenal Thread

AK.Rabona said:
And Fabregas is not responsible for this situation? RVP was not responsible for this situation?

The same Fabreags who backheeled the assist to Messi in the CL game against Barcelona.

The same RVP who got a idiotic yellow card for slapping Abidal, which eventually led to him getting thrown out the game.

Let's think twice before pointing fingers at Wenger. Fabregas, RVP, or whomever is just as guilty as Wenger in Arsenal's shortcomings.

It's so tiring to see people desperate to attack Wenger. Using any piece of information that is against him regardless of whether it is consistent with their stance or not.
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was it also fabregas fault for losing against bham? manu united in the fa cup? Also about rvp, wtf. he was sent off for not listening to the ref blow whistle and kicking the ball 2 seconds after.

RVP and fabregas has carried the team for so long. they have made a lot of contributions and hard work for the team more than the likes of ashavin, denilson, clichy, our two CB's etc etc.

Yes rvp and fabregas makes mistakes but hardly during a crucial must win game
 
Can't see us wining tonight. Spurs have a really good home record and I think they will be too strong for us.

But I am really hoping we do well :DD

Probably be a draw?

Nothing less than a win will do tonight!
 
I think you'll win easily. Spurs really haven't been impressive at all since Christmas. Not sure what happened, but Van Der Vaart appears to have decided to not bother so much with the second half of the season - and yet plays every match and they need his goals.
 
If Crouch plays, then Arsenal will win...Spurs are too predictable when he plays.
I'm in a dilemma for tonight. Obviously as a Spurs fan, i want Spurs to win...but i loves Arsenal's football and would like them to be champions.

What will happen: Arsenal will win against Spurs, but will not be champions.
 
if arsenal win the league it will be a victory for football and and a big FUCK U to the billionaires who are throwing money at clubs in order to achieve success
 
for christ's sake. it couldn't have been more typical of us. why the hell isn't chamakh played?
i just feel like smashing something.
this ball-less state will be speculated by every team for the rest of the season.
if last season should have been a reality call, this time it's the big freaking ben ringing in the ear of wenger. hear it!

also: 3rd.
 
n4p4st4 said:
for christ's sake. it couldn't have been more typical of us. why the hell isn't chamakh played?
i just feel like smashing something.
this ball-less state will be speculated by every team for the rest of the season.
if last season should have been a reality call, this time it's the big freaking ben ringing in the ear of wenger. hear it!

also: 3rd.
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So long as people stand by wenger, he aint going nowhere. He wont change either.

i can put a tenenr right now that same story will happen next season.

Anyways to be perfetcly honest with this game, a draw from this result wont be the reason why we lost the title. games like this when the opposing team are on fire and banging in wonder goals is rare and nothing to be ashamed off.

Its the games where you were 4:0 and still fail to win, or 2:0 at half time at home and end up losing the game, etc etc.

Those are the games that lost us the title. not this game. Arsenal played with passion and flair and so did spurs. These games happen where the opposing team matches you stride for stride. This certainly wasnt a game where i would say FUCKSAKES ur pathetic, sack wenger, etc etc. this was a very close game where i feel proud of the performance of our side.

There was flaws today but not large chunks of schoolboy error flaws like previous games. for example that ball to lennon that won the penalty was suspect. a proper organized defense wouldn't get split into pieces from a pass like that. someone was sleeping. about the other two goals, what could you do defensivly? one was a wonder goal and the other was sheer briliant play from spurs.

what could arsenal done to score more? well we tried hitting from long range but gomes made some cracking saves, same as our goalie.
in a nutshell not much wrong with arsenals performance tonight and had we played like that in our previous games we would be a lot closer to man united
 
jonneymendoza said:
So long as people stand by wenger, he aint going nowhere. He wont change either.

i can put a tenenr right now that same story will happen next season.

Anyways to be perfetcly honest with this game, a draw from this result wont be the reason why we lost the title. games like this when the opposing team are on fire and banging in wonder goals is rare and nothing to be ashamed off.

Its the games where you were 4:0 and still fail to win, or 2:0 at half time at home and end up losing the game, etc etc.

Those are the games that lost us the title. not this game. Arsenal played with passion and flair and so did spurs. These games happen where the opposing team matches you stride for stride. This certainly wasnt a game where i would say FUCKSAKES ur pathetic, sack wenger, etc etc. this was a very close game where i feel proud of the performance of our side.

There was flaws today but not large chunks of schoolboy error flaws like previous games. for example that ball to lennon that won the penalty was suspect. a proper organized defense wouldn't get split into pieces from a pass like that. someone was sleeping. about the other two goals, what could you do defensivly? one was a wonder goal and the other was sheer briliant play from spurs.

what could arsenal done to score more? well we tried hitting from long range but gomes made some cracking saves, same as our goalie.
in a nutshell not much wrong with arsenals performance tonight and had we played like that in our previous games we would be a lot closer to man united
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Good post :))

Agree with everything, apart from it being the same next year. I really think changes will be made....hoping :DD
 
i'm not saying we were pathetic, but we still were poor defensively. i have the feeling that the opposition can score easily. the performance was good, you're right jonney, but we cannot hold on to a result and cannot take more of our chances. we make it harder for ourselves.
it is so typical of us to give away results like these...
i'm going mad with this whole bendtner out wide routine.
we are lucky wojcez popped up this season! almunia can fuck of and we keep the poles and we're good.
 
I just don`t understand subbing Bendtner /Theo take Song out bring Bendtner more attacking at that stage. We played well just unlucky to concede by a penalty. All goals were good NLD are like no others!

Theo had a chance and he did the unthinkable " He started to think" Robin was screaming for the ball Oh-Theo! sometime I wonder.
 
jonneymendoza said:
So long as people stand by wenger, he aint going nowhere. He wont change either.

i can put a tenenr right now that same story will happen next season.

Anyways to be perfetcly honest with this game, a draw from this result wont be the reason why we lost the title. games like this when the opposing team are on fire and banging in wonder goals is rare and nothing to be ashamed off.

Its the games where you were 4:0 and still fail to win, or 2:0 at half time at home and end up losing the game, etc etc.

Those are the games that lost us the title. not this game. Arsenal played with passion and flair and so did spurs. These games happen where the opposing team matches you stride for stride. This certainly wasnt a game where i would say FUCKSAKES ur pathetic, sack wenger, etc etc. this was a very close game where i feel proud of the performance of our side.

There was flaws today but not large chunks of schoolboy error flaws like previous games. for example that ball to lennon that won the penalty was suspect. a proper organized defense wouldn't get split into pieces from a pass like that. someone was sleeping. about the other two goals, what could you do defensivly? one was a wonder goal and the other was sheer briliant play from spurs.

what could arsenal done to score more? well we tried hitting from long range but gomes made some cracking saves, same as our goalie.
in a nutshell not much wrong with arsenals performance tonight and had we played like that in our previous games we would be a lot closer to man united
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Good post jonney, I agree with most of it.

However, I feel we lost just as many points this season due to games like this as games where we didn't seem up for it or made unacceptable mistakes.

I don't have any statistics, but I remember many games this season where we played with passion and completely dominated the opponents, but ended up losing points because of freakish goals, inspiring performances by the opponents goalie, bad calls from refs, or things along that line that really can't be accredited to the team or Wenger's decisions.

For me, those losses were just as hurtful if not more than the the screw-ups by the team like the one against Newcastle.

Also, I don't think it is healthy to blame Wenger for all the lost points due to blunders. I will accept it if someone blames Wenger for games where the game seems hopeless against its fate like the Newcastle match or other games where it just seemed like the team was helpless to change the score. But I fail to see how a mistake by Eboue in the 100th minute of the game is directly Wenger's fault.

If you say Wenger shouldn't have played Eboue, then what about the fact that he scored a couple of games ago against Blackpool to secure our win? These things can go both ways.

I agree that we need more quality in our squad, and some players should really be parted with. But there is really no need to go by these changes in a frustrated and blood-thirsty way. It is easier to demolish things than construct them. While I want some changes, I want it planned carefully.

And yes, Man United has a huge advantage in the league race. But there is 15 points up for grab and only a 6 point difference. We've all seen more bizarre things than a 6 point lead being closed in 5 weeks.
 
All the criticism on Eboué are a litle bit unfair, he is a decent squad player...every club can use players like him. is mistake against Liverpool: leading up to that mistake (and in the same Liverpool attack) Arsenal defensive mistake after mistake...it's unfair to blame Eboué for that goal...if his team mates would have defended well Eboué would never have been in that position.
 
Who couldn't see that bottle crashing. 3rd place now and the way things are going internally, downwards seems to be the way.


FD
 
fd1972uk said:
Who couldn't see that bottle crashing. 3rd place now and the way things are going internally, downwards seems to be the way.


FD
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Heard it all before mate. Apparently we were not going to be in the top 4 for the last couple of years running? we were the weakest out of teh top 4 and all doom and gloom!

What is happening internally? Are you talking about the Fabregas article? if so, if you read the whole thing, it actually is just a player being truthful and not saying anything that bad anyway. He shows frustration, but like all of the supporters at the club and also Wenger himself.

Things will change in the summer and I really think for the better.
 
interesting. he nails it big time. where not far off. otherwise we wouldnt be going far in the champions league and title chasing credentials.

His right about that. We dont need to go all out on spending 100m on new players. all wenger needs to do is spend 50m on 2-3 world class players and that will be us sorted i reckon.

My reasoning of wenger going is because i feel that he wont do it. he wont make the minor tweaks and changes needed to improve our team. thats my biggie with him.

IMO even if we somehow win the title this year, i prey to god wenger still makes changes.
 
He sounds like an intelligent guy. Was a good player too. What's he up to these days then? Surely he could still be involved in the game in some way if he was interested. Certainly has the brains and the experience for it.
 
Well Dixon is a pundit for the BBC, but i don't know if that's all he does...
But the level of the pundits is dreadfull...the best football punditry is on the net nowadays...

Check this out:

www.zonalmarking.net

This is a fantastic website.
 
jonneymendoza said:
interesting. he nails it big time. where not far off. otherwise we wouldnt be going far in the champions league and title chasing credentials.

His right about that. We dont need to go all out on spending 100m on new players. all wenger needs to do is spend 50m on 2-3 world class players and that will be us sorted i reckon.

My reasoning of wenger going is because i feel that he wont do it. he wont make the minor tweaks and changes needed to improve our team. thats my biggie with him.

IMO even if we somehow win the title this year, i prey to god wenger still makes changes.
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You're in luck jonney:

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger handed £40m budget for summer rebuilding work

Get rid of Denilson, Clichy, and a few others and it's exactly what the fans have been screaming for.
 
any transfer amount £££ I would take it w/ a pitch of salt.When ask about today he said we`re in a good standing ,but everything depends. So....to be continue.
 
that, in wenger money units, is huge. :)
no matter what the buget is we have to keep in mind his spending history and characteristics. i wouldn't expect something that will blow out The Sun.
 
Hi.

6 years without a trophy. 6 years of Wenger having no plan B, 6 years without a world class GK and CB's, 6 years without a "Leader" on the field in the same mould as Viera and Tony Adams

6 years of relying on below average players like denilson and diaby, 6 years of trying to pass the ball to the back of the net, 6 years of conceding the exact same goals via set pieces and long hoofed balls, and finally 6 years of Wenger making a joke of himself infront of the media with remarks such as "i didn't see it?, I wont spend, my team is perfect, my team is the best, the ref cost us the game, the sun was too bright etc etc.

So the simple question is, why should he stay at arsenal?

If Fergie or guardiola was at the same boat as wenger, making the same glaring falws and mistakes for 6 years, do you honestly think the barcelona/united fans would put up with that for 6 years?
 
right, but on the other side of coin, 6 years of quality footbal, 6 years of Champions league football, 6 years of fighting for the title.. who would you chainge Wenger with?

This remindes me on Benitez bashing, he was gone and we were in relegation zone with a "manager of the year"... you need chainge imo, but wise..

Honestly i don´t know who else would make this young players world stars better than Wenger.. but you need to invest.
 
PIPA23 said:
right, but on the other side of coin, 6 years of quality footbal, 6 years of Champions league football, 6 years of fighting for the title.. who would you chainge Wenger with?

This remindes me on Benitez bashing, he was gone and we were in relegation zone with a "manager of the year"... you need chainge imo, but wise..

Honestly i don´t know who else would make this young players world stars better than Wenger.. but you need to invest.
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title? what title? fighting for the title until march doesnt count. fighting for the title in may counts. anyone can still be with a shout of the title in march but come may, where is arsenal?

nowhere to be seen. i get what your saying but benitez had only 1 bad season while wenger has had 6 poor seasons. ok we play decent football and in the top 4, yes manyf ans would kill for there club to be there but at the same time many millions of fans would kill to even be playing football in the premiership, so we can go round and round here as you can see.

i think you lot where very unfair with Benitize but arsenal have not won fuck all for 6+ years. even Liverpool have won trophies between that time. one being the champions league mate so you can say me or anyone wanting wenger to go is ungrateful and inpatient like liverpool fans because its entirely different.
 
i´m not saying it´s ungrateful, i just say that you better have a great replacement, not someone like Roy Hodgson..
 
"As a manager, he soon established himself as a man of strong principles. Van Basten famously dropped regulars like Clarence Seedorf, Patrick Kluivert, Edgar Davids and Roy Makaay and benched Mark van Bommel, because he believed that they were either past their prime or constantly underachieving.

There were also calls for van Basten to call up Dennis Bergkamp, who had retired from the national team six years earlier for a final "hurrah" as he was retiring that season. Van Basten then revealed to the media that he never intended to do so despite Bergkamp's own willingness."
 
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