eFootball (All Platforms)

[Chilleverest]

I don't disagree with anything you say there.

(Though in the case of nutmegs we might make exceptions according to how the defender's defensive stats match up with the attacking/skill stats of the attacker; nutmegs shouldn't be impossible, but nor should they be commands that work most of the time regardless of the players involved.)

The worst thing now is the introduction of match up – in itself not bad, but if you don't press and hold it when covering a lane, you have an unrealistically bad chance of blocking the ball and gaining possession.

Im not talking about taking your man on and then meggin them, im talking about a good 10 yards pass from opponent and then my defenders suddenly going into an animation where they try to intercept but blatantly let the ball go through their legs. I guess you have not played enough to experience this bullfu*kery but its clearly lowering the skill ceiling for me. Maybe its the skill, arrow form, stamina, just lower stats or PA, manually positioning the defenders should be rewarded with possession 8/10 times.

There are animations when defenders stumble to intercept the ball which looks brilliant, but then again its the algorithms that decide who gets the possession. I think instances like these are forgivable because the nearest player (or resulting 50/50) gets the ball. All in all, there are definitely elements where game tries to level the playing field, but i have come across players who knew when to double press and were just brilliant in general.

All in all, the biggest difference between this and FIFA's ultimate team is that in if Efootball, you dominate the game, you get away with the win, even loses are fair (so far) whereas in fifa, you opponent can be wank all game and can still get away with the most undeserving win.

 

[gabe.paul.logan]

Im not talking about taking your man on and then meggin them, im talking about a good 10 yards pass from opponent and then my defenders suddenly going into an animation where they try to intercept but blatantly let the ball go through their legs. I guess you have not played enough to experience this bullfu*kery but its clearly lowering the skill ceiling for me. Maybe its the skill, arrow form, stamina, just lower stats or PA, manually positioning the defenders should be rewarded with possession 8/10 times.

There are animations when defenders stumble to intercept the ball which looks brilliant, but then again its the algorithms that decides who gets the possession. I think instances like these are forgivable because the nearest player (or resulting 50/50) gets the ball. All in all, there are definitely elements where game tries to level the playing field, but i have come across players who know when to double press and were just brilliant in general.

All in all, the biggest difference between this and FIFA's ultimate team is that in if Efootball, you dominate the game, you get away with the win, even looses are fair (so far) whereas in fifa, you opponent can be wank all game and can still get away with the most undeserving win.

Honestly however dumb it sounds but we shouldnt try to intercept "that way" with any player or it results in that awkward slipping animation.
Thats mainly for players with the interception skill and/or with those who have high defending stats. Im clearly seeing this when im all out defending and my attacking midfielders, attackers come back to defend and they just making these stretching animations mostly without success.

 

[superleeds1]

Anymore trolling each other around here and I will just issue straight bans FFS, posts removed.

 

[Tom]

Chillax, party peoples.

 

[fregen]

No point at all playing that Dreamteam crap, everyone use PA1, horrible, horrible experience.

 

[digimon]

Kick off bug= u play high line with slow , low rated team vs a 99 speed legend team.

No I have high rated defenders. Its just if the player plays on the highest passing settings and passes the ball at set time your players automatically push up.

Also just because I play possession game it shouldn't mean that the game should mess up like that. I have no interest in playing long ball counter like every nonsense player. I like to actually pass the ball around, take my time and make openings.

Luckily this is the first game online since 2013 that actually rewards playing good football. I can win most matches against super star teams playing long ball. Unless they play on the highest passing setting and do kick off goals.

 

[rockstrongo]

For a dead franchise ,this thread has pretty damn good traffic.

 

[digimon]

No point at all playing that Dreamteam crap, everyone use PA1, horrible, horrible experience.

Not everyone does but I agree too many do and have a win at all costs attitude. They should have removed that assistance level ages ago. There's no skill required in it. Although this is the first year I can beat these guys on a fairly regular basis.

 

[milenec11]

its so easy AI absent
vs PSG in france tour
tonali cut the ball from neymar make a 60m run and score
nobody was possible to catch him throught the field tonali not saint-maximin
top level i win 4-1 and had 3 posts
previus game was against bordaux i win 5-2
very high scores like fifa

 

[gabe.paul.logan]

No I have high rated defenders. Its just if the player plays on the highest passing settings and passes the ball at set time your players automatically push up.

Also just because I play possession game it shouldn't mean that the game should mess up like that. I have no interest in playing long ball counter like every nonsense player. I like to actually pass the ball around, take my time and make openings.

Luckily this is the first game online since 2013 that actually rewards playing good football. I can win most matches against super star teams playing long ball. Unless they play on the highest passing setting and do kick off goals.

I play possession too, if i see runs let it be during the match or at kick off just track it with your defender and head it away. People just trying to take advantage of what you mentioned PA lvl1 and the fact the defensive line is pushed up high during kickoff.

 

[janguv]

Im not talking about taking your man on and then meggin them, im talking about a good 10 yards pass from opponent and then my defenders suddenly going into an animation where they try to intercept but blatantly let the ball go through their legs. I guess you have not played enough to experience this bullfu*kery but its clearly lowering the skill ceiling for me. Maybe its the skill, arrow form, stamina, just lower stats or PA, manually positioning the defenders should be rewarded with possession 8/10 times.

Oh no, I know well what you're talking about now lol. Just played a game and conceded a goal due to defender doing the animation and getting megged. Happened about 6 or 7 times in the game as a whole. Been aware of this issue for a while.

If it helps: I think it's more likely to trigger when holding Match-Up – seems to be what Kimura really wanted in "1 on 1" football, so that your player is easily wrongfooted. I think then you have to be really judicious in when you press L2 rather than holding it constantly as you might a jockey button. I can see what they're after with this, but it's a silly way to introduce a skill gap imo. Much prefer they just reward you for getting in position in the first place (especially since so many people are actually crap at reading space and covering lanes lol).

All in all, the biggest difference between this and FIFA's ultimate team is that in if Efootball, you dominate the game, you get away with the win, even loses are fair (so far) whereas in fifa, you opponent can be wank all game and can still get away with the most undeserving win.

I disagree with this. I have dominated several games and lost or drawn, often to just the one or two shots they had. Perhaps it's because I'm playing FUMA vs these Level 1 bums online. Manual shots, while generally on target for me, are often saved or parried.

 

[gonriver]

Im very happy overall with the update 1.0.0. The game now is fun, with lots of aleatory animations. A good camera. Improved graphics (still under PES 2021). But the most important thing for me, it plays like PES 2021, but it feels more responsive, i have been to much critic with the "new football game" and the launch of "efootball2022".

But now, the gameplay has reached a good level. Obviously there are a lot of things to improve yet, as the colours of the Menus (they are awfull), improve graphics overall (i mean, replays from near distance has a lot of very good details, but the graphics overall are not good compared to PES 2021), they need to improve aswell the game modes (offline) and include rain and different weather conditions.

Hope the next update will include all of this. I will be happy to pay, to unlock the full game.

 

[milenec11]

What are the biggest negatives from eFootball that categorize until now ?
-horrible referees-AI that turns itself off -Player who trips when the ball hits his shin hard -Ball passes to the side and your player does not catch the ball -Cursor change a garbage -Goalkeepers spread the balls a lot

 

[Bogo36]

So we lost another Warrior. He is on the Dark Side now.
R.I.P. 🤧

 

[digimon]

I play possession too, if i see runs let it be during the match or at kick off just track it with your defender and head it away. People just trying to take advantage of what you mentioned PA lvl1 and the fact the defensive line is pushed up high during kickoff.

I can stop it by doing that but my point is it absolutely stupid and needs to be removed.

 

[Mazen2020]

So we lost another Warrior. He is on the Dark Side now.
R.I.P. 🤧

The featured players aren't even stronger than the standard ones. They only have 6-7 levels and in fact if you take the same standard player, you not only can develop them the way you want, but even if you increase the exact same stats as the featured one, they end up stronger!

This is how it should be!

 

[gabe.paul.logan]

I can stop it by doing that but my point is it absolutely stupid and needs to be removed.

But what needs to be removed and how? It is down to tactics and those are ..fine. If you speak about passing assistance level filtering for online, i agree.

The featured players aren't even stronger than the standard ones. They only have 6-7 levels and in fact if you take the same standard player, you not only can develop them the way you want, but even if you increase the exact same stats as the featured one, they end up stronger!

This is how it should be!

But its easier to get them....

 

[Mazen2020]

But its easier to get them....

That's the whole point of something that costs money though. Either it's better or it's easier to obtain... I prefer the last.

 

[gabe.paul.logan]

That's the whole point of something that costs money though. Either it's better or it's easier to obtain... I prefer the last.

Also lets face it if you started with 100-200K GP you will never get Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, Salah, Van Dijk etc....thats already a million, no way to get that sort of a GP unless you play 1000s of hours and stick around for weeks for the GP rewards in the events. Everyone who has a stacked team got 1M starting GP and/or people are opening packs for money.

 

[Isslander]

 

[janguv]

Also lets face it if you started with 100-200K GP you will never get Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, Salah, Van Dijk etc....thats already a million, no way to get that sort of a GP unless you play 1000s of hours and stick around for weeks for the GP rewards in the events. Everyone who has a stacked team got 1M starting GP and/or people are opening packs for money.

Yeah that's how their monetisation strategy works. You give a select number a lot of resources at the start, and those guys create teams which set a bar for what to aim for, among players that come into it without the same resources. So eventually a portion of them stump up real cash in the need to compete (people will say you don't need the players to compete, but it's kinda neither here nor there – a lot of people will feel that they do).

This is why I get frustrated with arguments like "But I built a great team without spending a penny". Yes, of course that's possible if you start with a decent amount of resources (including the free training points given out). But they will (and are beginning to) reduce what they give out over time. Early adopters have better outcomes (reminiscent of crypto bollocks )

 

[gabe.paul.logan]

Yeah that's how their monetisation strategy works. You give a select number a lot of resources at the start, and those guys create teams which set a bar for what to aim for, among players that come into it without the same resources. So eventually a portion of them stump up real cash in the need to compete (people will say you don't need the players to compete, but it's kinda neither here nor there – a lot of people will feel that they do).

This is why I get frustrated with arguments like "But I built a great team without spending a penny". Yes, of course that's possible if you start with a decent amount of resources (including the free training points given out). But they will (and are beginning to) reduce what they give out over time. Early adopters have better outcomes (reminiscent of crypto bollocks )

Yes it is highly unfair. Im still doubtful if we would have ever any U20 Events or 70 rated players events. Because those events dont require you to spend money on opening packs. Maybe Spanish players only event or something like that.

 

[pesfooty29]

So we lost another Warrior. He is on the Dark Side now.
R.I.P. 🤧

I don't know why Knight should feel ashamed. The game was designed for that purpose.

And don't be surprised when they start reducing what they pay out in free currency.

 

[༺Ƥeຮ༻]

Many people say that ... really whether you pay 60 euros for the game or now 60 euros for eCoins is the same, you can pay even less, it's all fine ... or at least Konami hopes you to think so!
The difference is that after you pay 60 euros for PES 2/21, you have a GAME, a CD/DVD, or even a digital copy that you can play when you want! Now that you pay 60 euros, after 12 months, you have nothing except for an email from Sony or Stream that you paid 60 or more euros., this is the dream of every game developer this day, that is why we have so much live service games now, you pay and you have nothing.

 

[robbieryan]

i thought i'd actually genuinely give the game a go and you know what. it's okay. it's a 5 out of 10. the defending is actually quite good and i like the match up function and i feel like from my 3 games so far you could possibly defend your way out of this game against stronger opposition. that's lucky of course because the matchmaking is dire and all 3 of my opponents were super squads even though i had the default players plus a couple of championship level jobbers for my long ball shithousery tactic. the tactics in general are awful and the blinding UI makes you not want to even bother exploring it. by far the worst thing about this game of course is the responsiveness for a FUMA player, bloody hell it's literally like your players are passing and moving in treacle..

all in all i think that so far, despite conceding 2 cheese goals out of the 4 i've conceded, you can hold your own on your own ability in this game and from what i've seen the gameplay is kindof fair. I just don't have the will to play it when the players aren't even under my control with FUMA

 

[hitmanuk]

^ once the series gets into full swing and the kids who've spent a grand on a squad start complaining online about being beat by better players with rubbish squads the n Konami will do something about it . There'd also be no incentive to spend money if you could do well with average teams

 

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[Spursfan07]

Just give us decent licences, branding scoreboards, offline modes like league and cup mode and I'll pay 19.99 for it
Why unlocking all the teams in friendly offline? Imagine if we have to pay for the game we basically already have thanks to the unlocker

 

[Jay-Jay 10]

For me that is just pure gatekeeping. Why keep players who maybe can't afford consoles from playing a football game?

Also the problem is not that there is a PES Mobile Game. Fifa has a Mobile Game and still has a Console game with Career Mode and so on.

I think 2 things are happening at the moment:

1. Konami is focusing on the Online Crowd and that's pissing the old guard of (understandable)

2. Since they announced they want Cross Play and use a similar Engine people have gone a bit crazy with the "it's a Mobile Game" argument. Anything negative is now attested to PES having a Mobile Port. Nevermind that the Mobile Port is not even out right now. Still people try to put every problem the game has on the Mobile Port. Which for me is kinda the wrong argument.

First of all there are some things on efootball that can't be done on Mobile yet and second even if they have a Mobile Port it doesn't have to influence the main game. So the focus should really just be what they can improve on PC and Console with good arguments instead of blaming the Mobile Crowd or the Mobile Port. Let's focus on getting Konami to make the best Console and PC version with good arguments and examples.

 

[pesfooty29]

For me that is just pure gatekeeping. Why keep players who maybe can't afford consoles from playing a football game?

Also the problem is not that there is a PES Mobile Game. Fifa has a Mobile Game and still has a Console game with Career Mode and so on.

I think 2 things are happening at the moment:

1. Konami is focusing on the Online Crowd and that's pissing the old guard of (understandable)

2. Since they announced they want Cross Play and use a similar Engine people have gone a bit crazy with the "it's a Mobile Game" argument. Anything negative is now attested to PES having a Mobile Port. Nevermind that the Mobile Port is not even out right now. Still people try to put every problem the game has on the Mobile Port. Which for me is kinda the wrong argument.

First of all there are some things on efootball that can't be done on Mobile yet and second even if they have a Mobile Port it doesn't have to influence the main game. So the focus should really just be what they can improve on PC and Console with good arguments instead of blaming the Mobile Crowd or the Mobile Port. Let's focus on getting Konami to make the best Console and PC version with good arguments and examples.

"We started planning this move roughly two years ago to coincide with the console generation transition and changes in the market environment," he tells us, before explaining that PES Mobile's huge success acted as a blueprint for the wider shift. "I believe that we have already proven that this structure can be successful on mobile. By applying the same model across all platforms, we hope that more football fans will be able to play this game on consoles as well."

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