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Imagine if we came back from the second leg with deals sorted for at least one of Llorente, Muniain or Martinez...
 
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I was going to mention Muniain and forgot about Martinez also! I think Muniain would be preferably though :P
 
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Yes please!

Oh and doesn't it feel like ages since we've had a first leg at home? Predict a score draw.
 
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Give me Martinez anyday. That'd be one step towards securing the future of our central midfield.
 
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We're very sloppy on the ball at the moment, incredibly frustrating.

Bilbao were the better team tonight, Spurs were the better team the last game, late winner vs Norwich and we scraped through vs Ajax.

At the moment it's a case of getting results because of hard work, but not particularly because of any kind of quality. Our luck will run out in the league too if we keep playing like this.

On the plus side, Rooney gets another couple of goals, should do his confidence a lot of good, we know he likes to go on these periods where he can't stop scoring. De Gea was immense, could of quite easily been a bigger deficit tonight, Rafael let him down big time for the 3rd goal, what was he doing?!
 
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It was like watching England vs Spain. One team completely clueless in possession, often hoofing the ball aimlessly long while the other was far more assured on the ball, played some neat interchanges across the pitch and outplayed the other side.

Ironically, our only Spanish player saved us from a mauling.
 
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Thank god for David De Gea.

Honestly don't know what's up with it at the minute, I knew it'd be tough because Bilbao play a pressing game and we're hopeless against it but we've been playing shite for a while now.

Honestly doesn't matter if we have a good run of results for the games till the City game because play like that and it'll be another 6-1 again.

Something's not right with the backroom staff, I can only hope Quieroz comes back at some point.
 
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Giggs and Jones in midfield, supported by Park. I'm done being surprised. We were outplayed in midfield because we don't play f*cking midfielders.

Anyway.

Wish they'd thrashed us more as they deserved. Fergie is pissing around imo. It's insulting.

One side note - apparently for their third the ref had asked for them to play the ball back to us, which is partly why we were a bit asleep. Not that it absolves Rafael.
 
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Since its the United thread I'll just focus on us (I've already mentionend how good Bilbao were) simply put their was so much wrong with tonight that I don't know were to start. in midfield we were going to get outclassed if we didn't have Scholes playing and its an area of the pitch which is at its weakest since probably prior to Keane and Ince so playing a Spanish outfit who specialize in keeping the ball it would have made sense to use the 4-5-1 system we did for the last 3 years prior to the end of last season which gave us great results. I felt that going 4-4-2 was just naive from SAF

De Gea was pretty outstanding though and he deserves credit even though im sure hes gutted to have conceded 3. We really need to paper over the cracks for the time being by going 4-3-3 in these big games for the remainder of the season and reverting to the tactics which worked so well 2 years ago and then in the Summer go out and buy 2 outstanding midfield players cause we really struggle with quality and depth of options at the minute.
 
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We got destroyed today, credit to athletic they were brilliant and fully deserve there win.

Im really starting to question fergies tactics and descisions this year in europe. 4-3-3 was our main formation when we were at are dominant stages of europe and now fergie seems to use 442 which is extremely risky in europe.

Another thing which is seriously pissing me off is why fergie continues to use inexperienced line ups through out the season in Europe?

Yes we have had a lot of injury's but today we could of had a slightly more experienced back line, and for the love of god pick natural midfielders.

Why didn't Carrick play instead of Jones? So many poor decisions in Europe which is extremely disappointing.

The second leg I don't really have much high hope for. Need to win by 2 goals against a side that has only lost twice all season from what I've heard...

On the plus side De Gea was amazing!
 
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Agree - this whole season (and last tbh) has been about papering over the cracks. Fergie is incredible for having managed as he has.

What worries me is that we still seem utterly determined to never have a f*cking central midfielder play in central midfield. We don't even need someone who is world class (though it'd be nice) - just a player that knows how to play there. Giggsy, Jones, Park - not central players.

Arteta, Cabaye, Parker - any of them would improve our team this year. And were cheap and available in the summer. I don't want a palyer of that calibre, but that's how poor we are these days.

Outplayed by Ajax, Basel and Bilbao AT OT? We used to be invincible at home.
 
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Can't complain about the result. Had a feeling it was going to be one of those nights after seeing the lineup. Not exactly our strongest team, but like everyone else said, if it wasn't for De Gea it'd be a lot worse.

We looked more in control when Carrick came on, but the back line showed inexperience with Jones & Evans at CB (as well as Rafael's fubar for the 3rd). Also would have felt easier if Welbeck had replaced Park instead of Anderson. Actually, I would have been happier if Park wasn't starting!

As much as the result was fair, can't help thinking we were hard done by for the 2nd (offside) & 3rd. We'll just have to see how much we want it next week.

One last thing - Llorente is a machine! Would love to see him in United colours.
 
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We should sign Llorente,Muniain and Martinez just to keep De Gea happy at United for many many years to come.

United being outplayed and outclassed last night by a team filled with only Basque players! What is it about Spanish teams and the football they play?
 
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I think another thing to consider is the 'Old Trafford' draw that our players clearly aren't that into these days.

I mean, anytime we get to play in the Bernabeau or San Siro, I bet our players get that electric feeling - like wow this is somewhere I dreamed about as a kid. I'm not sure, but OT is the closest thing in England to that, so I'd imagine that some of these players are just really, really up for the opportunity.

Whereas our lot show up like it's a typical Thursday shift. (Evra, I'm looking at you)
 
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Doesn't help when the crowd doesn't give a shit for 99% of our games.

Felt like an away tie considering all you could hear was the Bilbao fans, much like Ajax in the last round.

I despair at the 'atmosphere' inside OT.
 
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matherto said:
Doesn't help when the crowd doesn't give a shit for 99% of our games.

Felt like an away tie considering all you could hear was the Bilbao fans, much like Ajax in the last round.

I despair at the 'atmosphere' inside OT.
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Same thing for me. We've been utterly spoilt for the past 6 years. I had hoped that going out of the CL would remind fans how special European nights are, but erm, nope.
 
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I hope we absolutely batter Ben Foster's goal today.

Would be good for himself if Berbatov gets a start with a couple of goals perhaps.
 
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Attacking line up or what? Pogba on the bench (signed a new contract?), Cleverley back on the bench too. Exciting stuff.

Manchester United
01 De Gea
03 Evra
04 Jones
05 Ferdinand
06 Evans
16 Carrick
18 Young
22 Scholes
10 Rooney
14 Hernandez
19 Welbeck

Substitutes

40 Amos
21 Rafael
11 Giggs
13 Park Ji-sung
23 Cleverley
42 Pogba
09 Berbatov
 
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I don't know how today could of gone better.
 
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Nani and Anderson injuries also could have not occured, will be important in the run in.

But yeah, nowonder the Suns been out, were top again :D
 
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Craziness. We've somehow top having had our captain and best player contribute at 3 games all year, and having no midfield to speak of for most of it too.

Carrick for BPotY?

Also, Fergie was in France watching Lyon v Lille on Saturday. Random. Hazard? Who else is there we might be interested in?
 
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Probably some extremely young talented defender or something from one of the two teams.

Either way, it was apparently a very boring game and Hazard did the square root of fuck all. Not the best of impressions for SAF.
 
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I am not sure about the rest of you lot but it irks me to see Patrice Evra all smiley and feelin all cheeky in the tunnel.I have never seen any of our captains do that before...usually its about a picture of concentration and focus in the tunnel before marching onto the green.
 
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I don't think Paddy has ever been anything other than smiley and cheeky though.

I'm all for concentration and focus but if he can show he's relaxed enough for the pressure not to get to him then it's a good message to send out.

That said, hopefully not too relaxed...but then you never know with his defending this year...
 
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I don't think SAF was scouting anyone, he rarely does that, its more likely he was in France enjoying himself and just went to a game.
 
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So, 1 point ahead with 10 games left. Would never, EVER have believed it at the start of the season - really thought this year would be about youth players getting a chance and trying to grow a core of them together. Mental.

On that vein, who do you think will make it at United of the youth? For me:

Will/have made it:
Welbeck
Nani
De Gea
Rooney
Jones
Hernandez
Evans

Might make it:
Smalling
Fabio
Rafael
Cleverley

Won't make it:
Macheda
Diouf
Anderson

I genuinely think that's reasonably impressive for a group of under 25's. Obviously no Barcelona, but if that unit can gel and enjoy their football together, we should definitely improve over time.

------------De Gea------------
-Jones-Smalling-Evans-Fabio---
-------Cleverley-?????--------
---Nani-----Rooney---Welbeck--
------------Hernandez---------

That team could play for a LONG time together. Just looking for that final piece (Pogba?) to come in when Carrick wanes.
 
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