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Manchester United Thread
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Gotta give the Gala fans credit - if nothing else they intimidated the hell out of the referee!
Melo = no cards = oddest officiating I've ever seen. He literally committed 5 yellow card worthy offences, and that's by premier league standards. Ref basically set the tone as: I'm going to allow dangerous tackles, time-wasting and feigning of facial injuries. Good luck chaps.
Melo = no cards = oddest officiating I've ever seen. He literally committed 5 yellow card worthy offences, and that's by premier league standards. Ref basically set the tone as: I'm going to allow dangerous tackles, time-wasting and feigning of facial injuries. Good luck chaps.
Did you see the match? He had two awful tackles in the opening 8 minutes alone!
The Guardian minute by minute guy (hardly a paper known for their love of United) was hypothesizing at half time about Melo having compromising pics of the ref
Anyway, doesn't matter. The match literally means nothing to United - all I wanted was to ensure no one got an injury. So when I see Melo flying into reckless challenges and getting away with it, it pisses me off.
Aboutreika18
Too Black, Too Strong
- 5 September 2006
How this wasn't a straight red, I'll never know:
bebo
Looking for a Manager
From that angle that looks a very good tackle. ALL ball and no trailing leg, not even studs up on leg. Let me warn you I got a 4/12 on the ref test 
From that angle that looks a very good tackle. ALL ball and no trailing leg, not even studs up on leg. Let me warn you I got a 4/12 on the ref test
Indeed, look up 'control', 'endangering an opponent' and so forth. Pretty nasty stuff - very very similar to Hangeeland's over the weekend.
Anywho, onto the weekend! Desperately need a win, especially now that the rentboys have decided to self combust ahead of the City match.
cfdh_edmundo
Maverick
- 30 December 2002
That Guardian report doesnt seem that professional or objective to be honest. The guy is just in there having a pop at Lindegaard:
I thought he was probably your best player last night. I dont think he was "flappy" at all, he made a number of great saves including on he tipped onto the bar, but numbnuts in the Guardian didnt see it as a save. I'm not sure how he was "poor" against Norwich, he was only beaten once, by a pretty much unstoppable header. Even last night the goal he let in was probably more the fault of the guy on the line at the corner (or whomever decided to put one of the shortest players on the post defending a corner).
I thought he was probably your best player last night. I dont think he was "flappy" at all, he made a number of great saves including on he tipped onto the bar, but numbnuts in the Guardian didnt see it as a save. I'm not sure how he was "poor" against Norwich, he was only beaten once, by a pretty much unstoppable header. Even last night the goal he let in was probably more the fault of the guy on the line at the corner (or whomever decided to put one of the shortest players on the post defending a corner).
YoungGun_UK
20 TIMES!
So glad I support United. I do worry though how the club will evolve once the manager doesn't have the backing that SAF does, an entire generation of United fans have no idea what its like to see a change in management or the potential of our manager getting sacked, let alone as frequently as our rivals.
Will be strange.
From that angle that looks a very good tackle. ALL ball and no trailing leg, not even studs up on leg. Let me warn you I got a 4/12 on the ref test
Don't see much wrong with it either. The fairy brigade will be out to slaughter it though. I'm a crap tackler but never been one to cry about somebody diving in at me as long as they go for / take the ball. If they don't go for or take the ball, they'd probably get the local handshake but for christ sake, I wish people would stop crying about every single challenge nowadays.
There's shocking tackles and then there are ones like that gif. That gif isn't that bad now is it? Not to me anyway.
YoungGun_UK
20 TIMES!
I think the difference is Professional Football and Sunday League have very different rules, whether people like them or not.
In Sunday league the entire Premier League/Serie A/La Liga teams would be labelled 'The fairy brigade'.
were discussing 'Professional Football' and in that version of the game its a clear red card.
In Sunday league the entire Premier League/Serie A/La Liga teams would be labelled 'The fairy brigade'.
were discussing 'Professional Football' and in that version of the game its a clear red card.
I don't play Sunday league and I'm not talking about Sunday league either. And different rules? News to me.
Was he sent off for it? If not then it obviously wasn't a clear Red.
Yes, that's some clever logic right there. Refs are infallible. Show me the Hangelaand tackle over the weekend from behind and it will look identical. It's almost a carbon copy. Both got the ball. But both were off the ground, out of control with both feet.
The difference between these 'fairies' and Sunday league players is that their livelihood and the industry as whole depends on other professional players not endangering each other for 90 minutes a week.
It comes down to what you like about the game. If you want to see true skill, pace and attacking magic than you're going to have to accept that players need protecting. If you'd rather see rugged defending that is occasionally mistimed (but well intentioned of course) breaking a leg each week, go sign up to the Lee Cattermole fan club.
The sport has evolved from 20 years ago in terms of officiating and protecting the players. Sometimes the fans have to remember that.
No offence but I'm a total football type of guy but there is nothing wrong with a hard tackle. The tackle we are on about was hardly that bad. It's a mans game and tackles like these are going to happen. Sometimes the fans have to remember that! And who said anything about endangering anybody for 90 mins?
I'm no tough nut at all but I laugh at some of the stuff I read on here. Over the top cry baby comments at times. I don't want to see anybody go out and do somebody but some of you need to stop exaggerating things so much.
As for the logic, well that's the ref, myself and another person who think it so like I said, it wasn't a clear red.
Wilko22
Confusions Familiar
- 19 March 2003
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YoungGun_UK
20 TIMES!
Amazing, 26 years!
ss4_goku
Premier League
so...why are we playing Lindgaard and not De Gea?? is there something that I missed?? I understand for the remaining champions league games as they don't matter, but EPL as well?? He's really not that great...
*edit* yet another proof that Hernandez needs to come on as an impact sub to be effective. Not as useful from the start for 90 minutes.
*edit* yet another proof that Hernandez needs to come on as an impact sub to be effective. Not as useful from the start for 90 minutes.
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Aboutreika18
Too Black, Too Strong
- 5 September 2006
Amazing how much difference a midfielder who actually carries the ball forward makes to this team.
Someone put a fork in Scholsey - cause he's done 
Every time United have lost this season (except the reserves against Gala) has been a 442 with either Scholes or Giggs in the middle.
If only there were some pattern here.
Scholes comes off, a midfielder who can actually move is put on and hey presto, we look like a football team.
How many games does Fergie need to get the point?
Every time United have lost this season (except the reserves against Gala) has been a 442 with either Scholes or Giggs in the middle.
If only there were some pattern here.
Scholes comes off, a midfielder who can actually move is put on and hey presto, we look like a football team.
How many games does Fergie need to get the point?
Scholes has still got a lot to offer this season but only as an impact sub when needed against a tiring team.
What baffles me is to how Rooney keeps picking up these man of the match awards. Constantly gives the ball away with on or two great passes here and there. He is and always be just a striker..does not have anywhere near the skill and talent to play as a creative mid permemant basis.
The less said about fergusons team selections and tactics the better. No surprise that united were more successful with either Kidd, McLaren or Queiroz by his side.
What baffles me is to how Rooney keeps picking up these man of the match awards. Constantly gives the ball away with on or two great passes here and there. He is and always be just a striker..does not have anywhere near the skill and talent to play as a creative mid permemant basis.
The less said about fergusons team selections and tactics the better. No surprise that united were more successful with either Kidd, McLaren or Queiroz by his side.
Godotelli
Stroking Silva's Hair
I gave up all hope when Anton Ferdinand came on
Probably only second to Dubya in the 'living off their surname' stakes
Probably only second to Dubya in the 'living off their surname' stakes
- 7 May 2012
Someone put a fork in Scholsey - cause he's done
Every time United have lost this season (except the reserves against Gala) has been a 442 with either Scholes or Giggs in the middle.
If only there were some pattern here.
Scholes comes off, a midfielder who can actually move is put on and hey presto, we look like a football team.
How many games does Fergie need to get the point?
Beach knows better than Ferguson as usual.
You armchair managers make me laugh.
Man Utd sit top of the league because of Ferguson. Scholes is allowed to have bad games. He still has a season left in him.
Yep, just me, every fan and hey-ho the manager himself saying we were poor until Scholes came off.
I'd love to be wrong, but Scholes hasn't been good yet this season - and worse - he's been giving away chances with his lack of agility. Last season he was very safe, this year he's giving the ball away in dangerous situations at least once a match.
I'm 100% sure Scholes and Giggs will go at the end of the season, possibly with Fergie (eeeeeeeeeeeeeeep)
Aboutreika18
Too Black, Too Strong
- 5 September 2006
You could put Fergie's statue in that midfield and it would do a better job of tracking opposition midfield runners than Scholes.
Just stick Cleverley and Anderson together in there, Fergie. I can't think of another title chasing side that chops and changes their midfield as often as us.
Just stick Cleverley and Anderson together in there, Fergie. I can't think of another title chasing side that chops and changes their midfield as often as us.
YoungGun_UK
20 TIMES!
Ay Fergie's been a tinker man for years but I do think it has its benefits, I just think when a certain player is in great form he needs to let them continue, with Nani and Anderson in particular, both could be in great form and find themselves left out, only to return and put in a mediocre performance.
Carrick + one of Ando and Cleverley in the bigger games, I'd only use Ando/Clev in home games where we need to be on the front foot for most of the game.
Carrick + one of Ando and Cleverley in the bigger games, I'd only use Ando/Clev in home games where we need to be on the front foot for most of the game.
phrase
Tactician
- 12 December 2002
Come on...this is irony at its best.
You call people armchair managers for their comment or judgment and yet you can come up with "Scholes is allowed to have bad games."?
There are no passengers in this team or any other team as a matter of fact.
- 3 October 2010
id love to have scholes at the toon even in the twilight of his career. we are playing absolute dog chod at the moment like.
PLF
Legend
- 2 August 2004
He's one of the most greedy and selfish players out there! Absolutely HUGE ego as well! He's talented and has a lot of potential but he THINKS he's a lot better than he actually is and this keeps him from working as hard as he should to reach his big potential.
And if you look, apart from Tony Valencia, he's had a lot more minutes on the pitch than Nani and Ashley Young.
And if you look, apart from Tony Valencia, he's had a lot more minutes on the pitch than Nani and Ashley Young.