Serie A Thread - 2014/15 Season

Re: Serie A Thread - 2008/2009 Season

Milanista said:
This season we are having a boom in strikers in Serie A. So much class for almost every team. Milito-Palladino, Lavezzi-Denis, Maccarone-Calaio/Frick, Zarate-Pandev (Theyre crazy!), Toto-Quaglia-Pepe, Amoruso-Bianchi, Brienza (wtf he's suddenly becoming the new Miccoli!).... etc etc. Every team is dangerous up front.

don't u think u're forgetting something :WHISTLE:
Budan-miccoli could be a very good partnership. they might complete each others perfectly..... i mean if budan will ever be fit :((
anyhow i wouldn't mention maccarone and frick along with the other guys u mentioned.... maccarone and frick are pretty average compared to those guys.
i would rather put in the same page of the guys u mentioned palermo's couple, sampdoria's couple (bonazzoli-cassano) and fiorentina's couple (gila-mutu).

Gerd about Dembele's rumour it would be nice to see him in italy, but unless we'll sell somebody in jannuary, i can't see him coming in palermo. We already have a pretty solid starting couple; budan-miccoli. and cavani came up with some great performance lately (as budan is injured).... not to mention the young georgian prospect mchelidze (who seems to be very interesting), and the young italian prospect lanzafame, who still didn't have a chance to prove his quality.
so it would be very hard for him to find some space here in palermo.... but hey, u never know :-D

concerning the fact that serie a is today the most "competition-wise" balanced league in europe (actually bundi is as competitive as serie a, but serie a still has something more in terms of overall quality - and by saying that i don't mean to disprespect budensliga, wich is a league i adore.... but seriously i can't see anything better than serie a this season out there), this is due to 2 factors.

1- the fall of the top 4. as a matter of fact the italian top clubs today are weaker than 8 years ago, for instance.
2- the unbelievable, constant and continuous growth of almost every other club in serie a.
it was a collective growth. almost every club, torino, samp, napoli, lazio, fiorentina, atalanta, catania, genoa, sampdoria, udinese started a smart, penny-wise growth project many years ago.... and that's the reason of their achievements.

it's a process that doesn't involve just 2, 3 or 4 clubs (as in premiership or la liga)... this project involves almost the whole league. almost every club, from the poor ones (like catania, atalanta, torino) to the mid class teams followed a specific progress in the last 3 years. it's not something that happened in one week.
we're not talking about a millionaire buying a club and signing 3, 4, 5 big stars for ridiculous wages.
we're talking about smart, knowledgeable presidents who hired great sport directors, to let them work together with great coaches in building a good team with a few money in 3, 4 years.

and as a result today, if we compare all the serie a clubs, from the end of the table to the 5th position, with their british, spanish, german, and french counterparts, we can appreciate the fruits of this work, as almost every italian club will appear to be better than his english, spanish, german, french counterparts, under every aspect (coaching staff, individual technique of the players, tactical variety, financial administration).

it seems crazy when u think how poor this league was, under all theese aspects (except the quality of the coaches) up till 5 years ago.

i think it's all due to the money. up till our clubs were rich, they used to apply the same crazy policies some british clubs use today.... then, when the money disappeared, we had to find out a way to preserve our quality with less funds.... and we ended by having a league wich is even more competitive and beautyful to follow than 5, 8 years ago.:))
 
Re: Serie A Thread - 2008/2009 Season

Great and interesting post Ben...and yes you have a point...being "poor" (which is relative compared to Belgian, Portugese, Dutch, Scottish or Scandinavian clubs)turned out to be a good thing for the competition in the league...what a shame we never see Italian matches here....

By the way, can i look Italian football (higlights) on the internet ????
 
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Thank you very much Stef...

I have a question which is strictly spoken off-topic, but i think it's better to ask this in this thread than to start a new topic.

I've started a manager mode in FIFA09 and i wanted to play with a random team, so my wife choose US Avellino for me...Can anybody in here tell me something about that team (i know the name which means they once played in Serie A, but it seems a long time ago), are they any good in Serie B, who are their strongest players...etc... thanks in advance.


PS: in my Manager Mode Avellino are 8th after roughly 1/4 of the season...
 
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Allright, i'm gonna answer my question myself (but if any one would know more, please be my guest).

It seems my wife picked the worst team of Serie B. Since they did not succeed to win a single match uptil now...in other words, a perfect choice for me...

Avellino was a serie A club between 1978 and 1988...
 
Re: Serie A Thread - 2008/2009 Season

I've started a manager mode in FIFA09 and i wanted to play with a random team, so my wife choose US Avellino for me...Can anybody in here tell me something about that team (i know the name which means they once played in Serie A, but it seems a long time ago), are they any good in Serie B, who are their strongest players...etc... thanks in advance.


PS: in my Manager Mode Avellino are 8th after roughly 1/4 of the season...

are you sure your wife picked avellino randomly?
maybe it was her intention to give you a hard time? :D
 
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Re: Serie A Thread - 2008/2009 Season

Allright, i'm gonna answer my question myself (but if any one would know more, please be my guest).

It seems my wife picked the worst team of Serie B. Since they did not succeed to win a single match uptil now...in other words, a perfect choice for me...

Avellino was a serie A club between 1978 and 1988...

very poor team, quite a poor coach, horrible stadium (but that's pretty normal for italian clubs), violent ultras.... and also not really a nice place to live in :P

i don't know how much people at EA know about football, but if they're like the real ones... then it will take some feat just to keep them in serie B, Gerd :D

the overall quality of the team is pretty low, but some of their players are definitely above average.
de martino was a very interesting prospect, when he was playing for roma youth team. Aubameyang is on loan from milan (wich should say something about his quality, even though i can't be sure as i never saw him playing).... and then there's de zerbi, who could definitely be a starter in many serie a teams
 
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There are a few names in the squad who were in serie a sides, in previous seasons. And don't forget Rodrigo Defendi, who was at Tottenham. :P

yeah, but most of em didn't deserve to be in serie a :P
de zerbi is class however (i wonder why did he join avellino :II)
 
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The name Defendi rang a bell. He's a good defender in FIFA, together with Vlasko they hold the fort at the back...although tehy each had a red card...
De Zerbi is easily the best player of the team...
I'm not too impressed with Aubameyang...
I've read Wikipedia prof.

And now for something completly different....no, not the knights who say Niiii but Anthony Vandenborre.

When i saw that vandenborre was in the line-up for the Belgian national squad, i cursed...in Belgium Vandenborre is perceived as a hopeless case...a very talented player, but not too bright (and that is a very big understatement) who probably is lost to football...we all had a good laugh when he was transferred to Fiorentina.
Wednesday against Spain he was absolutely outstanding however...easily the best man on the pitch (although Spain won, Belgium was the best team, even the Spanish press conceded that ...).
Theday after our papers were full of praise for Vandenborre and i read that he's doing quite well in Genoa. He came across a great physical trainer, lost seven kilo's in the summer and his coach (Manfredini ???) is full of praise for him and that with a team that is doing quite well in Serie A.

Dit our papers exagerate ????
 
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Dit our papers exagerate ????

i'm afraid yes. i mean, antony is far from being a starter in genoa....

he's quite a versatile player, but genoa has plenty of quality in any spot, so there are at least 1 or 2 players ahead of him in any role.....
so far he just got "junk playtime" (he came in when the matches were already decided almost always)......
however he already got more caps than last season in fiorentina, so that's still a preddy good season start.

anyhow Gerd, it'd Gasperini, not Manfredini.... fantastic coach :))
 
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I realised afterwards that it's gasperini...and i just read that he was in trouble again, he came back too late from Belgium after the match against Spain and Gasperini pun him in the stands...
 
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Napoli and Udinese are very scary. They are ripping teams apart with their brilliant attack. Both of them deservedly lead Serie A. In other news.... MILAN HAVE PASSED INTER!!!! WOOOO... we played quite well and I think we deserved our win. I watched Fiorntina constantly press Inter and should have scored a few times.

Genoa are also on fire now.... scoring for fun at home. Good to see Juve winning again.

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Udinese and Napoli... fucking love it!

Roma have been shocking though
 
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Auguri Capitano :APPLAUD:


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There is nothing for me to really say, the man is a living legend period!!!
 
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Any news on where Racing de Avellenedas 19 year old dribblig passing superstar is going ?

Is it Juventus or Udinese ?
 
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Anyone saw Mascara's peculiar free kick goal for Catania against Torino ???
I read in a paper that some Catania players lowered their trousers so that Torino's keepers' view was blocked...must have been a funny sight.

It was a trick inspired by Catania's coach Zenga who used to be a GK himself.
 
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YouTube - Caso Curioso - Catania Torino 3-2 punizione di Mascara e pantaloncini giu di Plasmati

Thats the incident. I think he will get a suspension or a fine, since Collina commented on it. Zenga ended up arguing with Varriale on live TV after the game. I don't like Varriale, but Zenga was also in the wrong. A week ago Varriale also argued with Mourinho who walked off.

Plasmati is the one that pulled his shorts down.... he even defended the decision.
 
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He didnt need to do that, Last season Anderson did something similar to put Almunia off when Hargreaves scored from a free kick
 
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now that's what i'd call a "creative coach" LOL!
it was quite funny indeed. i don't think there will be any conseuqences, coz collina hisemlf admitted "we still have no rules concerning this kind of situation" and since referees can just interpretate and apply existing rules (and can't create them) i guess catania will get away with it.

however i'm pretty sure Fifa will sort it out, issueing a new rule by the end of the season.

as for the zenga-varriale incident, well i can't blame zenga tbh. he just reacted to varriale's provocations. he went too far aswell that's for sure, but honestly we can't expect a coach to handle theese kind of situatiuons with coolness and style, as usually football coaches are not smartest people. i mean they're not engineers, doctors, lawyers, businessmen.... most of them are just ex football players, who got a isef degree and the coaching license, so....

actually there are a lot of coaches out there, who, despite their background, just happened to be smart. some of them are smart coz of their "nature", some faced a self-improvement process, once their football player carreers were over (by studying), some became wise thanks to their life-experience.

zenga is still pretty young and however i don't think he'll ever be wise (not even when he'll be 70:D), but he's a sincere man, who always tell u what he thinks, a pure heart.....

Varriale deserved it..... actually varriale deserves much more than that. when i saw that argue, i thought "poor zenga, he just fell into varriale's trap. i wish i was walter, it would take 2 minutes to me to humiliate varriale and destroy his reputation in front of millions of italians..... without being harsh or loosing my coolness".....
but then again, if i was zenga, catania wouldn't be such a good team... and definitely wouldn't have 21 points already :D :COAT:

varriale is a cunt. the only think he does is provocating coaches... and i really can't understand why nobody fired him yet, given he's almost unanimously considered as the most hypocrite and unprofessional football journalist in italy... i can't even tell if he knows football or not, as i never heard him talking about football (but if he never did that, i guess there's a reason :D), the only thing he cares about his keeping the audience shares high, by provocating arguments, with his stupids remarks.

he doesn't even deserve the label "journalist".... at least not in italy..... but honestly i think he would be considered "utterly poor" even according to the english standards (and this says it all).


however inter, milan, juve, napoli, lazio, udinese, catania, genoa and fiorentina.....9 teams in 7 points.... what a great season!!!

Juveboy said:
There is nothing for me to really say, the man is a living legend period!!!

the word "legend" doesn't suit Alessandro anymore imo, my friend. Too many players are labelled as legends today. i guess we should find something new (something more "epic") to describe the likes of del piero and maldini. :))

edit:
mancini just won "la panchina d'oro" (in english it would sound "the golden bench"), the seasonal award for the best coach. what do u guys thin about it? :))
 
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I'm not a specialist on Italian football and i have nothing against Mourinho, but i'm happy Mancini has won that trophy...i think he did well as coach of Inter.
 
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Well Mourinho was never in the running for that award against Mancini last year.

But I never thought of Mancini as a good coach..maybe cause of his ties to Inter lol
 
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I also do not rate Mancini that highly. He was given a great squad with almost unlimited funds. He was also 'given' big coaching roles. Someone like Zenga started from amateur sides, Eastern Europe, and now Serie A. I think he will get better and better, and eventually become a very good manager. imo Mancini is very spoilt, arrogant and overrated. If we are talking about last year, i'd have given it to Spalletti or Prandelli. They created a 'style' for their teams.
 
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Yesterday evening i listened to the Guardian's football podcast (which is very, very good) and they reported about the Zenga-Varriale incident. They said that Varriale accused Zenga of costing them the 1990 World Cup...that man must be a jerk to say things like that 18 years later and that to someone who was the second best goalkeeper of the world in his time (and maybe the bestbut as a Belgian i have to pretend that Preudhomme was the best).
 
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Lippi's equalled the world record of 31 international matches unbeaten. :D Which team has he got the chance to break the record against?
 
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