Please, just give me Edit and some offline modes. Even in 3 months. Because i don't dislike the game overall, offline, and the ball physics is less floaty/like a basket ball since the update. And i like both dribbling (before and after the update) to me it's accurate.
At least the game seems to follow the physics rules. To me (just to me) it's miles ahead in terms of football/physics logic than his concurrent... But much more "soulless". The R2 run is a very great found, it's pretty amusing, realistic and natural to handle. Passes are okay since the update, but it misses stuffs.
Ball physics is way better but not at all from the 3 previous PES. I don't see aberration in that game, but i suppose that online it's a very different experience i feared to try.
Well about the small and quick comparison i think the same since PES 15 with one exception (2016 vs F16 version which terrible, and 2018 both games versions weren't great, especially with the recoil) but it's my own personnal preference and view, no need to debate about it.
Like i trough than the game evolved to his maximum like
@aussiepesfan said on the other thread. I prefers 19-20-21 to 15-16-17 in every way (forgot the 18 looks like they make the pitch bigger and added some stuff that will be on the 19-21 but not the inertia, pressing etc. It's open bar)
I replayed PES 2017 after 2021, even 2022 offline and i got really hard to go back as much the physics were righter overall, and even the AI. But PES 17 is a fun game, pitch very smaller, more contact so more faults probably. No joke : i got much more fun with PES 2011 to take an example of a "360 degree more or less" version.
2022 edit mode, 2022 offline... I'm a feel a little sad to pronounce those words, not for now on as i'm enjoying PES oldies/unplayed games (2008,JL2007 and 2014) and a bit of FIFA since i've took a PS3 (11/14 PS3).
There's a lot to discover and re-discover, but i suppose that, not quickly but one day, i'll be in a "enough of oldies" games and want to play a novelty.