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English Premier League thread

Chico should ve received a red as well. Hate those little cry b######. Perhaps time to introduce NHL style fights and have the two players try to knock each other out, then send em both off.
 
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Chicho shouldn't have even been on the pitch, this is a guy who tried to smash a brick against a team mate earlier in the week in training, the club should have suspended him.
 
Have to hand it to you mate, really great result. Matic was just bossing Yaya. I always thought he had potential when he was at Vitesse, but I never thought he would turn out to be this good.
 
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Have to hand it to you mate, really great result. Matic was just bossing Yaya. I always thought he had potential when he was at Vitesse, but I never thought he would turn out to be this good.
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Matic makes it painfully clear hat Utd scouts = a crap load of shit. :COAT:
 
goals scored in 2013-2014

Martin Skrtel 4 :APPLAUD:
Fernando Torres 4
Silva 4
Lampard 4
Ozil 4
Cazorla 4
Januzaj 3
Podolski 3
Wilshere 3
Fenandinho 3
Sigurdsson 3
Eriksen 3
Paulinho 3
Ashley Young 2
Willian 2
Chicharito 2
Valencia 2
Cleverley 1
Lennon 1
Ba 1
Defoe 1
Mata 0
Kagawa 0
Fellaini 0
Downing 0
Carroll 0
 
My reaction was also meant as a joke pipa...
To be fair, i never rated Skrtel very high, but this season he seems to be playing better than i rated him..in the past he regularly had defensive howlers...it seems he's left that behind him.
 
ye they got that wrong, toure probably deserved ban but why hypocrite one need to get involved demanding ban?? tbh hypocrite one needs to be banned for incessantly talking out of his ass..
 
That should've been a straight sending off.

We've been seeing refs being absolutely rigorous with some players that were trying to win the ball. For instance, Mathieu Flamini's challenge against the Southampton player may have been dangerous, but he came away with the ball and the opposition player was unharmed. He was sent off because refs now show red for tackles with studs showing.

But kick someone in the kidneys while they're on the ground in an off the ball incident, by all means.

What a strange sport football is becoming.
 
Of course that should have been a straight sending off...the ball was nowhere near, he onlu lashed out to hit the player on the ground, that is always a straight red...class justice once again...

If it would have been the other way round, Van Wolswinkel would have got a ban for 3 or 4 matches...
 
My favourite argument - if that was Rooney it'd be on the front page of the Sun, Mail and Mirror today. We'd have 3d slow-motion, 4000 fps replays on MOTD, and dedicate 30 minutes to his mindset,

But we move on, the press determine the FA's agenda, and fortunately for City, it appears the press don't care about Yaya.
 
Well Beach, Wigan Athletic....need i say more ?
Rooney is a fantastic player, but that is still the most brutal thing i've seen in 45 years of football...that was also class justice.... I don't know if it made the front pages, but it should have....
 
Rooney only got booked for worse earlier in the season so I don't know what you're crying about.

As for Flamini, his was a career-threatening 2 footed lunge. Contrast that with a little flick off the ball. It's not unusual at all to only receive a yellow for such things. This is made a big deal because the ref didn't see it and Moaninho started whining.
 
So gerd, the elbow on McCarthy a few seasons back was the most brutal thing you've ever seen in football in 45 years?

Or are you just trying to be funny again?
 
Not at all Abou.
Over the yearsi've seen lots of horror tackles wich really were horror tackles (the one on Eduardo comes to my mind): players that got over the ball. Those tackles could have finished carreers (in the case of Eduardo, that tackle did change his carreer). They were all much more dangeous than what Rooney did.

But in all these cases, the ball was involved. Only the offender himself knows what his intentions were, but most of these players somehow went for the ball (in a very clumsy or brutal way).

In Rooney's case, the ball was nowhere near... I don't know why he did that, perhaps Mc Carthy said something, perhaps he took revenge...

To me it is always much worse if the ball isn't involved (that is why Touré should get a ban too).

Imagine doing something similar like Rooney on the street ? I'm pretty sure you would end up arrested. The adrenalin that is involved in a match is no excuse for what Rooney did there. He was an experienced player at the time.

I hope you see now why i'm not trying to be funny.

And now something other. I remember a post from you were you considered to put me on your ignore list. At the time i apologized because you seem a nice fellow and i felt that i made a mistake (can't remember what however).

I like to read your posts, but you seem to be the last person on this forum who still thinks i am against Man Utd. There used to be a time when i avoided the Man Utd thread because that horrible RunEdge had persuaded most of the fans that i was against the club. As a former United fan, at times i'm very critical for the club. But for the momenti have much sympathy for the club and the fans. I want them competing for titles again. I don't show schadenfreude.

Maybe i am the only one who feels that what Rooney did against Mc Carthy was very brutal, but it is my honest opinion. I wasn't writing that to wind up anybody...beach and i are bickering all the time, but i highly respect him...he's one of my favourite posters.

And would you have reacted if i would have said something similar about (for example) Suarez ? I don't think so.

Like i said, maybe i'm wrong about Rooney (i am often wrong because i'm very subjective, like all of us), but it is my honest opinion. It deserves respect and not being seen as acting like a clown.

No hard feelings.
 
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What a paradox between Fulham's senior team and their U21 one, the 1st one being on the very bottom of the league and the latter one being leaders with 6 points clear off their 2nd.

I'm starting to understand Meulensteen's choices more now.
 
gerd said:
Not at all Abou.
Over the yearsi've seen lots of horror tackles wich really were horror tackles (the one on Eduardo comes to my mind): players that got over the ball. Those tackles could have finished carreers (in the case of Eduardo, that tackle did change his carreer). They were all much more dangeous than what Rooney did.

But in all these cases, the ball was involved. Only the offender himself knows what his intentions were, but most of these players somehow went for the ball (in a very clumsy or brutal way).

In Rooney's case, the ball was nowhere near... I don't know why he did that, perhaps Mc Carthy said something, perhaps he took revenge...

To me it is always much worse if the ball isn't involved (that is why Touré should get a ban too).

Imagine doing something similar like Rooney on the street ? I'm pretty sure you would end up arrested. The adrenalin that is involved in a match is no excuse for what Rooney did there. He was an experienced player at the time.

I hope you see now why i'm not trying to be funny.

And now something other. I remember a post from you were you considered to put me on your ignore list. At the time i apologized because you seem a nice fellow and i felt that i made a mistake (can't remember what however).

I like to read your posts, but you seem to be the last person on this forum who still thinks i am against Man Utd. There used to be a time when i avoided the Man Utd thread because that horrible RunEdge had persuaded most of the fans that i was against the club. As a former United fan, at times i'm very critical for the club. But for the momenti have much sympathy for the club and the fans. I want them competing for titles again. I don't show schadenfreude.

Maybe i am the only one who feels that what Rooney did against Mc Carthy was very brutal, but it is my honest opinion. I wasn't writing that to wind up anybody...beach and i are bickering all the time, but i highly respect him...he's one of my favourite posters.

And would you have reacted if i would have said something similar about (for example) Suarez ? I don't think so.

Like i said, maybe i'm wrong about Rooney (i am often wrong because i'm very subjective, like all of us), but it is my honest opinion. It deserves respect and not being seen as acting like a clown.

No hard feelings.
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The ball being involved has little to do with it, especially when it's quite obvious that the offender only has eyes for the player, Ben Thatcher's vile assault of Pedro Mendes for example.

Your countryman Axel Witsel's challenge on Wasilewski that broke his leg was disgusting, yet because the ball was "involved" it makes it fairer than Rooney's elbow?

It's just a bizarre thing to say, there's been plenty of worse incidents over the years. In fact, there's been plenty of elbows similar to Rooney's, like Gerrard's on Michael Brown a few seasons ago:

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But you don't see me calling them the worse thing I've ever seen since I started watching football.
 
Your post is the best proof that all this is very subjective, abou.
I'm pretty sure most horror tackles (when the ball is involved) are more clumsyness than bad intent.
What was Rooney trying to do against Wigan ? Can there be any other answer than deliberately hurting the Wigan player ? If so, please give me a couple of possibilities....the ball was at least 20 metres away...at least. Why did he do that ? Was it related to the ball ? I don't think so.

It is also very interesting that you talk about the WItsel-Wasilewski incident. WIth all respect, but you don't know 10% of what happened there. You know why Witsel made that horror tackle (and the result is an horror tackle, there is no doubt about that) ? Because he was terrified of Wasilewski. The victim Wasilewski terrorrised Belgian football pitches for years when that happened. In the weeks before that match, he had broken several noses using his elbows...that guy was the butcher of Belgian football and is now known as a victim...that must be one of the biggest jokes in Belgian football (of course i'm exagerating). Witsel and Standard had the grace not to mention that young Witsel was terrified the whole of the match before the incident. At the time Standard had a fantastic team: Dante, Fellaini, Witsel, Jovanovic, Defour, Mbokani and others. They finally succeeded in winning the Jupiler League, but the matches against Anderlecht were very, very violent...they were all about intimidation...inexperienced young Witsel lost it....I'm not saying he didn't made a mistake, he fully dserved the ban het got and certainly should have had more, people who only saw the horrific images don't know half of the story...

After that incident Wasilewski calmed down a litle bit, but he was still one of the most violent players...now he is playing for Leicester, i wonder how he is doing. He was idolized by Anderlecht fans, some of them even go to matches of Leicester...but all the non Anderlecht Belgian fans absolutely hated him...this man never was a victim.

And by the way, i don't read any convincing argument in your last post. The fact that the ball is involved or not is essential. Football is all about having possession of the ball.

Why foul a player when the ball is nowhere near ?

Look at the absolutely bonkers penalty Yanga mbiwa got for what he did to Eto'o. To me that was a clear cut penalty...ther ewas no need to do that.

Now about Rooney against Wigan. Was that a foul like Yanga Mbiwa's ? Not at all, that was an assault with the ball nowhere near. The starting point of this discussion was what Yaya Touré did with Van Wolfswinkel. I think 95% of the non Manchester City fans will agree that he should have been banned, if you know that both Caroll and Bellamy got bans for similar "fouls"...

What Rooney did was much more violent and futher away from the ball.

This said, Rooney is a fantastic player who deserves to be a hero for United fans. He is an unselfish team player, but that time he made a big mistake and came away with it, unlike Witsel who made a mistake...
 
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