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Manchester United Thread

Eh? we didn't sign Jo on the back of a tournament

Everyone thought Poborsky was going to be great based on Euro 96(?) but turned out to be a turd. Jo was just a turd all along

Do you post on Bluemoon btw?
 
The Man City forum? God no, that place is full of paranoid, bitter, angry children who go around accusing each other of being a "RAG" if they disagree with you.

EDIT: Just had a look at their Liverpool thread and there is a Steak Bake posting over there! Now I see why you asked if it was me. No it's not - for a start he wants Man City to win the league. I want Liverpool to do it.
 
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Steak Bake said:
The Man City forum? God no, that place is full of paranoid, bitter, angry children who go around accusing each other of being a "RAG" if they disagree with you.

EDIT: Just had a look at their Liverpool thread and there is a Steak Bake posting over there! Now I see why you asked if it was me. No it's not - for a start he wants Man City to win the league. I want Liverpool to do it.
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You'd fit right in
 
I'd love to know what Ferguson and Charlton were smoking the night they thought Moyes would be a good fit for United.

I want some of it, whatever it is!!
 
Steak Bake said:
I'd love to know what Ferguson and Charlton were smoking the night they thought Moyes would be a good fit for United.

I want some of it, whatever it is!!
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Made sense on paper - as I've posted before: Moyes is 3rd behind only Ferguson and Wenger in modern English football in terms of points per $ spent. Which is obviously critical to United.

I would never in my wildest nightmare imagined him to be this spineless, tactically bereft and just timid.

Hopefully we can all agree it was a mistake and move on in the summer. Fingers, toes etc crossed.
 
I'd like to see van gaal come in for about 3-4 seasons and gradually let giggs take over at the helm. That's my master plan, what's yours?
 
Klopp. We could guarantee him a long term deal, complete control, a much bigger budget that what he had at Dortmund and vibrant fanbase.

Hopefully he'll aspire to something beyond Dortmund one day.

If we dither with Moyes til Xmas and some other team gets Klopp, I'll be distraught (well more distraught).
 
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Van Gaal would improve us short term but I don't think he'd be the answer either, we'd take him right now because were a bit desperate.

Klopp is the obvious perfect choice, Martinez ironically is showing real potential too though and more realistic, would be ironic if we got another Everton manager though.
 
Rumour mill says a deal for Carvalho is almost done and Luke Shaw is likely, would be a good start to our overhaul.
 
YoungGun_UK said:
Rumour mill says a deal for Carvalho is almost done and Luke Shaw is likely, would be a good start to our overhaul.
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Very much like both players, but the sums being talked about are mental. 30m+ for an unproven midfielder, and similar for a young left back?

Absolutely bonkers.
 
Odd, our share price rose over 10% today.

#MoyesOut?

(it's obviously not, football related matters don't make that kind of impact)
 
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beachryan said:
Very much like both players, but the sums being talked about are mental. 30m+ for an unproven midfielder, and similar for a young left back?

Absolutely bonkers.
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£30 million isnt bonkers in the grand scheme of things for Carvalho. City spent silly money on rubbish like Lescott remember?

You have to pay the big money to get the big stars now, United need to get back on map.

I think you'll be a force again this time in 2 seasons, easily.
 
United fans around the world are so used to the old glory days that they aren't patient enough to wait for success in two or three years. Even when we had that spell of not winning the league in the early 2000s, we were still challenging the top 3 spots and played good football. This season it was such a shock that it took everyone by surprise and thus all the backlash.

We must spend crazy money (not too crazy, but crazy enough) in order to attract the challenge. We aren't rich like Monaco, but we have to do something like that to show intent in getting back into the league and Europe and building a new team of champions. No more looking back at the past and the old glory days. The new Liverpool team doesn't play the same way as the force in the 80s/90s, and they adjusted to be the team that they are now. We must do that as well.

*not to "aspire" to be at the level of liverpool (or city), but to be Manchester United!
 
We do need to spend, but we need to do it sensibly. We're not able to lose money indiscriminately - and we only have about 50m left in our cash reserves after Mata. Meaning we'd have to borrow to spend anywhere near the 120m figures being thrown about.

Well, that or Uncle Malc would need to pony up his own savings. Yeah, that's gonna happen.

I just wish we had a manager I could get behind. This is a massive re-building job, and we're trusting a manager that has never won anything of note, has us playing worse than in my living memory and has shown to be in awe of his job. There is not a single thing from Moyes tenure at United that gives me the briefest hint of faith that he can handle the job. Nothing. He has failed in every aspect of managing Manchester United, and only the fact that the Glazers are relatively 'hands-off' in their management has kept him in a job.

And will keep him in one through the summer. Sob.

Champions to 7th place. No trophies. Reward? Another year! Only United.
 
Gonna have to get back in the CL next season because the money goes up even further for the 2015/16 CL onwards. Gonna be a mad scramble between potentially 7 clubs, with it being quite devastating for 1 club (from City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arse, Utd)
 
Man Utd will be fine long term, they are too huge to go without CL footy. They are basically the English 'Real Madrid' in terms of stature. Moyes won't get the time HE THINKS he's going to get, the Glazers aren't stupid.
 
PIPA23 said:
David Moyes' record over his first 50 games better than Sir Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger, Bill Shankly and Brian Clough

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...Arsene-Wenger-Bill-Shankley-Brian-Clough.html
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Ferguson took United from practically relegation to 2nd in his first season.

Moyes has taken us from 1st to 7th. And won no trophies.

Comparing these is as useless as comparing track times of racing drivers when they started their careers. What matters are the tools you're given, and what you achieve with them.
 
YoungGun_UK said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...490&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

Martinez spot on.
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He's not wrong, but it's incredibly tactless to say that about a fellow manager. Especially when you're the manager that has inherited his squad, and managed to get relegated last year with a pretty decent team.

He's definitely a good speaker and the current media darling, and gets his teams playing attractive football, but at the end of this season it's likely he'll of achieved precisely what Moyes did about 3 times, and less than Moyes did once (Europa League, no trophy). And that's with a 25m striker who has been massively in form that Moyes never had.

I like him, but he's getting a bit lippy imo for someone who has achieved so little. Regardless of their fortunes this current season, Moyes is vastly more experienced and proven than Martinez.
 
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