Re: Serie A Thread - 2009/10 Season
oh come one, don't be such a "bad winner" now!
Roma fans cocky? why? they were singing and thanking their players yesterday, even after the defeat. u just can't not admire that. they were moving, to say the least. and mind u, i'm the first one to have a go at their ultras anytime they do something wrong.
and
ranieri a loser? please, tell me u're joking here. u just CAN'T be serious here! a loser is someone who lose
something he was supposed to win. ranieri was never supposed to win the scudetto. when he came in roma he wasn't even supposed to reach the champions league zone (wich means the 4th spot). those days roma was much closer to the relegation zone than to the 4th spot. ranieri was supposed to save roma from a potentially disgraceful season (a la lazio) and possibly to bring them into an europa league spot (wich means 6° or 7°).
what ranieri has done this season will be remembered for decades. from a neutral point of view, his achievement is more impressive than mourinho's 2 scudetti with inter (assuming he will win the second one this season).
first of, coz between inter and roma there is a financial gap that is wider than the gap between real madrid and villareal. inter spent
87 millions just this season, while roma spent
0.
at the end of the season moratti will pull out of his pocket a little less than 100 millions to pay inter's debts and sweep the club's overdraft (as he's already done almost every year since he bought the club), while roma will end this fiscal year with a profit.
second ,coz coaching a football team in roma means facing a pressure an inter coach will never experience. there's an italian saying that goes "
uno scudetto a roma o a napoli vale come 10 scudetti a milano o torino" ("
a scudetto won in roma or napoli is as much of an achievement as 10 scudetti won in milano or torino").... coz delivering in those 2 cities is much more difficult.
and third, coz inter had a 14 points head-start over roma before ranieri's comeback began.
so let's put everything in the right perspective and don't let the results get your judgement clouded.
even if roma will win the scudetto (let's not forget that all roma needs is 1 inter loss or even just a draw), that won't turn this season into a disaster for mourinho. actually, even if inter would end this season without winning anything at all (champions league, scudetto or coppa italia), this will still be a great season for mourinho. judging a coach by results only is one of the lamest things a fan can do. mourinho has done an outstanding job with inter this season. this is by far the best, the most complete inter i've ever seen. josè managed to do something no coach has ever done before; he turned inter into a confident team... and all theese merits of josè won't just "vanish" if he won't win a thing. so he will still deserve praise for his amazing job.
likewise, even if roma won't win the scudetto, that won't overshadow ranieri's amazing job.
i'll repeat it one last time fellas. don't judge coaches from their results only. if we had to do this, then this inter would be
the poorest inter ever since 2006.... we're at the 35th week now and inter has 73 points.... u know how many points inter had at the 35th week last season? 78. and the season before? 81. and what about the 06/07 season? 90.
if we had to base our judgement over results only (like mourinho's fanboys like to do), then we should say inter has done much better with mancini than with mourinho (wich is clearely wrong). and we should also say that this was inter's worst season since calciopoli... which is crazy coz this is the best inter i've seen in decades.
milanista said:
Come on Ben, you secretly love Zamparini!
well "love" is a bit of a stretch. but i'm definitely very grateful to him. palermo spent 31 seasons between serie b and c... from 1973 to 2004. when zampa bought palermo we were a serie b team, with a 30 billion liras overdraft (that's the equivalent of 15 millions euros... i know, this won't seem so bad to an english fan today, but 15 million euros were a lot of money to owe, for a serie b club in 2003).
zamparini brought us in serie a, he had us playing some very good football (some awesome football, sometimes, like this year). he built 3 amazing squads in the last 7 years (the first one was the one with corini, barone, zauli, toni, santana, grosso, barzagli... the second one was the one with biava, simplicio, bresciano, amauri, miccoli, liverani..... and now we're catching a glimpse of what will be his third palermo, with hernandez, pastore, cavani, kjaer, balzaretti, bertolo).
and he didn't get this gems by overpaying them. we actually made a profit out of each of theese players, as we always sold them for twice the price we paid for them (sometimes much more than twice the price).
today palermo is a good solid football club, which has no debts at all, which is able to fund itself and compete for the 4th spot in such a competitive league as this serie a.
i'd say zamparini has done enough to deserve my gratitude and respect.
sure he's stubborn and talks shit most of the times.... but then again, some of the best football club presidents in europe are just as controversial as him (think of Aulas or Del nido, for instance).
