Re: Serie A Thread - 2009/10 Season
i really don't understand what's the big deal, seriously. lazio played its usual game. saying they didn't try hard enough it's nonsense. they did try. and it's also wrong to say the only lazio players who were trying were muslera and rocchi.
zarate played his usual game (namely trying to take on the entire opponent team just by himself and failing miserably after the 2nd dribbling). hitzlsperger played a very good game (he had something like 4 shots... that's definitely not the approach of a player who "is not trying hard enough"). foggia too was dangerous in a few occasions.
lazio played to win the game. and those stupid lazio fans who were celebrating inter's goals didn't even seem to have such a big impact on the biancocelesti's will to score. they didn't win simply coz they're not good enough. period.
there's a reason if lazio is the 17th team in the league table. they weren't even able to win against roma just 2 weeks ago... in the most important match of the season (for lazio fans and players).... they sure didn't lack of motivations against roma, did they? and yet they lost.
so what's the big deal now that they lost against a team wich is actually even stronger than roma? i really don'ìt get it.
ale said:
..it's a HABIT of Italian teams doing such things..
We have nothing to play for anymore (unfortunately Lazio is quite safe) and the team we face has to fight for a seasonal goal? We lose the 99% of the times.
whoa ale! that's a
huge mistake u're making here!
till 3 years ago your point would have been correct. italian teams who didn't have any goal left to achieve (those which were already safe from relegation and couldn't fight for a european cup spot) used to "go on holydays" weeks before the season ending, giving 3 easy points to any opponent they were facing in the last weeks of the season.
this was indeed a tipycal italian habit. IT WAS though..... as it isn't anymore, at least according to what we saw in the last 3 years.
today every team gives his very best till the end of the season no matter what, and i've got
TONS of examples to prove my point.
let's just stick to this week matches.
cagliari (which has nothing to fight for anymore, as they're already safe and too far from the uefa cups zone) was facing a team that was fighting for the relegation (udinese) and yet they tried very hard to win the match and scored twice (the game ended 2-2).
bari litterally raped genoa 3-0.
wanna take a look at last week fixtures?
chievo kicked the crap out of fiorentina. fiorentina was still fighting for a europa league place, while chievo had no goals to achieve anymore. the game was even played in firenze! and still chievo won 0-2!
an already relegated
livorno outplayed and beated catania, a team which has been on a great form lately and which was still fighting to avoid the relegation.
cagliari stopped a very fired up napoli in napoli. once again, cagliari had nothing less to fight for, while napoli was fighting with palermo, samp and juve for the 4th place.
i'm gonna stop here, but i could go on like this for weeks. just consider the race for the 4th place. it has been decided exclusively by teams which had "nothing to achieve anymore". palermo lost the 4th place coz we weren't able to beat
cagliari a few weeks ago..... cagliari had no goals to achieve, it should have been 3 easy point, right? well, cagliari tore us apart for about 70 minutes, and we were really lucky to grab a 2-2 draw and get at least 1 point (as till the 85th minute we were loosing).
and what about sampdoria? before palermo lost the 4th spot, they had a great chance to go ahead of us, and blew it loosing against
bari! yep, bari... exactly another team which "supposedly" had no goals to achieve anymore, beated sampdoria right when samp needed to win the most.
and do u know why napoli is out of the race for the 4th spot now? coz they lost 5 very important points this month. they draw against
cagliari and lost against
parma.... they should have won those 2 matches and get 6 points out of em... as both cagliari and parma have nothing to fight for anymore. if they would have won those 2 matches they would be on par with palermo right now, just 2 points below samp.
i'm gonna stop here, as i guess that's already enough to prove my point. there's no such thing as an easy game in serie a anymore, as every team will try to play at its best even when the season is pretty much over and they don't have any goals to achieve anymore.
ale said:
Do you think that Cagliari will play till death next sunday, with the most representative player of theirs being son of a Roma legend and currently Roma employee?
i guess u don't remember how the last match between cagliari and roma ended

6 jannuary 2010. roma was winning 2-0 till the 90th minute... cagliari scored 2 goals in the injury time and draw the game.... do u know who was the cagliari player who scored the equaliser? yes,
daniele conti, precisely that very one player whose morality u seem to be questioning. daniele is a roma fan and also the son of bruno conti (former legendary roma player, current roma's team director)... but this sure didn't stop him from scoring and even celebrating the goal.
i remember that game pretty well coz it blew up a 2500 euros bet. i had 10 results on that bet. each match already ended exactly as i wanted... cagliari-roma was the last match...i just needed roma to win that to cash those 2500 euros...and till the 90th minute roma had a confortable 2-0 lead......as u will probably imagine, i was "a bit cranky" when cagliari managed to score 2 goals in the last 3 minutes of the match.
so ale, i guess now u can see why there's absolutely nothing to worry about. yeah, both inter and roma will probably win next week, but sure not coz their opponents (chievo and cagliari) will lay down. coz, as i proved in this post, no one will give u 3 points without a fight in serie a.
