Who me? what gave you that idea
No, i don't dislike Pastore (hmm, maybe if he went to juve 
I'm the same way with Mariga (the new patrick vieira apparently 
). I just don't understand the hype. I understand that the 50 million valuation is based on potential rather than currently ability, but 50 million and talks of a golden ball award Sneijder has done more in a season than most players could ever hope to in a lifetime and he's not even a shoo-in for the golden ball award nor is he worth 50 million (maybe 25-30 million). quite simply really, Palermo are getting results, yes. Palermo scoring more goals, yes... BUT you have not played entertaining football. You yourself said, you have four new players in your starting 11 so clearly time is needed to gel. What's more you're playing without a regista. Or maybe you're basing "playing well" on goals scored. In which case Inter were the most entertaining side to watch in serie a last season (ok, we both know that isn't true, we were dreadful to watch, painful, but we're european champions
)Meh, give serie a defences a moment to adjust to his style of play and speed, they'll soon figure out how shut him down. Interestingly, according to him, he's only at 60% at the moment
Napoli-Catania? Sampdoria-Fiorentina?
you mean Cannavaro-Thuram-Buffon-Veron-Almeyda-Crespo-Di Vaio Parma?
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and who ever talked about ballon d'orrfu said:
man, some foreign journalists are really nuts.no, i don't base my opinion on the ammount of goals scored.... but on the way those goals actually arrive. we score with every player. both our sidebacks are heavily involved in almost each offensive play, our "defensive midfielder" nocerino spends most of the time on the edge of the opponent's box and his passing accuracy could well be compared to a regista's one.rfu said:
well top clubs are definitely not the main feature in serie a. and yeah fiorentina and udinese are having a hard time right now, but every season there's always an underperformer in serie a. last season lazio and udinese failed to deliver.... this season it's probably gonna be fiorentina and udinese (although i'm confdent fiorentina will get better).rfu said:
nagatomo.... reallyrfu said:
i hate to talk like the usual biased fan, but come on... ilicic too came from nowhere... actually he was even more "unknown" than nagatomo, as nagatomo was also followed by arsenal, while palermo was the only club who showed interest on ilicic.
Not at all, I agree he's a special talent and technically he's on another level, what i said was a) he's not worth 50 million b) he shouldn't be considered for the golden ball c) his passing and overall decision making need work. That was all
Man, I wouldn't be bold enough to say that about any player let alone Pastore. A player at 20-21 needs to be nurtured and protected. Not to be the center of attention where you even go as far as to build a team to fit his strengths. It's a humongous risk many are not able (or even willing to take).
Didn't see that game. I was referring to the matches vs Inter and Jugay and Napoli. You were much more solid last season, were building better from deep and Miccoli was providing crazy magic in the opposition half and was just a nightmare for the defence. Just saying, Palermo of last two seasons was more entertaining to watch, home or away. Especially when you got going.
Haha Astori nah he's doing well, managed well vs Eto'o particularly in the 2nd half, did a darn side better than Bonucci did. But his partnership with Canini needs some work IMO. I've been impressed with that Belgian kid who has been filling in for Conti. Didn't have a good game yesterday but he's well on his way. Reminds me on Inler actually.
Aaaahh Illic. I've been so mesmerized by Pastore I forgot Illic even existednagatomo.... really
Seriously though, I've been very impressed with him, he a headache for us because we couldn't figure out where he was playing, just popping out of nowhere. I like that he's fearless, he wasn't phased or star struck, just wanted to score. Anyway, there's too much Palermo/Pastore going on in this thread. Nothing has been discussed abotu Cesena yet. Nothing about Antonioli impressing at 41, Colucci as a converted holding midfielder after many years on the wing, nothing about Giaccherini or Ceccarelli even. If you're impressed about Illic's technique you should check out Thereux of Chievo. He's an interesting player, I'm curious to see how he progresses in serie a. Also Constant on the left side, pacy and nifty on the ball. He's a former french U21 so the talent is there. Kone of Brescia is also looking good in the hole. So I'm not a killjoy at all, in fact I like Palermo, i can always count of them to thump Juve when we can't 
i was just about to bring that up. what the fuck was that! cagliari ultras making racist booes? u might expect such blind stupidity from verona\chievo fans.... but cagliari??? very disappointing. and honestly i don't give a f*** if they do it just to distract him.... if your aim is to distract a world class player of the oppposite team, then u can whistle him every time he gets the ball. really a disgusting (and absolutely unexpected) display from cagliari ultras. i'm just glad samuel shut them up by scoring.
that was during his years in maiorca, right? i guess i became a fan of samuel that day yeah, i agree with u. but u see, when u say "i want to see continuity" u make me realise u're still thinking about his future, about his potential.... don't do it, mate. i've learned my lesson. the only wise thing to do is to talk about a player's past and present... don't consider what kind of football player he could or could not become. that's pointless.... and like u said, it's also dangerous for the player as it puts too much pressure on him.rfu said:
napoli? we didn't play against napoli yet. however mate, that actually explains a lot of your concerns about palermo.rfu said:
goes to show how depth can become a problem sometimes.indeed you're right. enough talking about palermo. what small newcoming teams impressed u the most guys? i haven't seen a cesena full match yet, but i heard many people saying good things about them (Sina too wrote a very interesting post about them weeks ago).rfu said:
Jesus christ, that's something a 5 year old would say. Worse than Liverpoo or Manure. I do worry about you sometimes, rfU. 
Jugay?
Which is why I was wondering why you were so surprised Cagliari ultras would do such a thing, Ben.
