Re: Serie A Thread - 2010/11 Season
Can it really be just his skin colour ? It seems so backward for fans of a modern democratic nation, in this modern age, to subject an Italian player, playing for their own nation just because of his skin.
oh come on!! a modern nation???? in this modern age???? what does that even mean!!!! seriously what does that mean! is france a modern nation? or maybe england? or netherlands or usa or spain or russia??? aren't there any racists in those countries?
u really believe that american or german, spanish or english people are more tolerant than italians? if that's what u actually think, may i ask u where have u lived in the last 10 years? haven't u noticed what's going on in germany? did u hear merkel's speech about the failure of the integration process in germany?... did u read Thilo Sarrazin's "masterpiece"
Deutschland schafft sich ab and his very "modern" and "democratic" beliefs? (like when he says turks immigrants and muslim immigrants are going to lower the average q.i. of the german population)...... have u noticed the direction that france and spain took, speaking of immigration policy? did u hear what happened in lincolnshire (england) last year, when some british workers felt "outraged" by the fact that some italian people were working at lindsey?
i gotta be honest with u guys, i'm really concerned by the double standards people all over the world has when it comes to italy. and i'm serious here. why every xenophobic incident that happens in any other european or american state is seen only as an isolated episode, while when it happens in italy it's always a symptom of a national issue?
and it's not just about common people either. even international authorities seems to have a very weird approach to this matter. the EU has been blaming italy's immigration policy very often over the last few years.... how the hell is that possible, since our immigration policy is actually MUCH more tolerant than the french or the spanish one? why they blame italy and they don't say a thing about spain and ceuta border fence? are they blind? how can they not know that italian ships every month go all around the mediterranean sea, saving from certain death those hundreds of african illegal immigrants packed in small boats who try to reach malta or spain shores. we don't just host and provide medical assistance to the immigrants who come in italy... we even go rescuing those who are refused by spain. and WE are the intolerant racists??? a few months back the guardian issued a vitriolic article about italian immigration policy.... just the day after the malta incident!!!! (if u don't know what the malta incident was about, google it and i'm sure u'll find out something about it)..... that's beyond ridiculous.
and then, on the other side, u have a few dozens italians booeing black players in some stadia....... and that becomes enough to say italy (a 64 millions people country) has a racism problem??? how is that even possible!!! how can people jump to such a ridiculous conclusion and overlook "small details" like the fact that the italian ultranationalist party pretty much died for lack of votes?!?! why this crazy double standards?
anyhow i'm tired of writing about this topic, so i'm just gonna say one last thing...... it should be pretty obvious, but apparently it isn't, so i'm gonna make it clear.
the only reason why u don't see such episodes in german or british stadia is because german and british stadia are well under control. if u do something wrong in a german or in an english stadium, chances are u won't be allowed to enter into a stadium anymore.
in italy instead u can do pretty much everything inside a stadium (and in the surroundings of a stadium) and get away with it. and since football matches are a great stage in terms of visibility, lots of very bad people and proper criminals actually
USE football events to "send a message" and gain some leverage (against the club itself or the federation or the city board).
but to assume that a few hundreds thugs (manoeuvred by some criminal organizations) actually represent the entire population of a country is just laughable.
one last thing edmundo (btw sorry for this rant, i'm not trying to have a go at u... u just gave me a chance to get something off my chest... and as u probably already realised, i feel very strongly about this), u say how can this happen "in this modern age"........
allow me to tell u, history does NOT march in a straight line towards progress and evolution.... it goes in circles. 100 years from now there will still be ignorant and racist people.... and not just in italy.
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on a different note...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXnjxMViQTc



ilicic didn't score in his last 2 games..... i was starting to get worried!

btw rfu, u were right about cesena! what a wonderful team!!!