Re: Serie A Thread - 2010/11 Season
Gerd said:
Paolo Bandini and James Richardson both pondered the thought that Micoli should have a chance in the Sqaudra Azzuri. They said that he is the next Lucarelli, an excellent player who never got a decent chance in the national team and this for reasons that have nothing to do with football.
Lucarelli because he is a communist.
And Miccoli because he once had a fight with Lippi's son, they even praised him for this...what's the story behind all this. This intrigues me.
truth is there's no hidden story behind this.
lucarelli loves to say he was discriminated for his political views..... but that's bullshit. fascists are isolated in this country.... communist most certainly aren't..... i had this conversation with ernestito some time ago. the perception of fascism and communism in italy is very different from what it is in countries like england, france, russia, usa, spain and germany.
u see communism isn't really seen as "something bad" in italy. it must be said, our communism conception is kinda different from the russian one (the italian ideal of communism doesn't entail the proletariat dictatorship... let's say that italian communism is more of a "pumped up\more extreme version of socialism").
Communists aren't seen as "bad people" here in italy... not even by their opposers.... the worse opinion u might hear about a communist from an italian is that "
they're naive people, who believe in an utopic world that will never come". and that's really the worse comment about communists u might hear from an italian (fascists, on the other side, are considered like a stepped down version of the devil himself).
so no, communists aren't discriminated in italy... at all. they are just too many to be discriminated anyway.... italian communist like to play the "minority card", they like to play the role of the little kid pushed around by the bully..... but that's just bullshit.
the communists average result at the elections over the last 10 years is an impressive 5%. compare that with the the extreme right average electoral results over the same period (0.4%), and the result is that the average ratio in italy is 1 fascist every 10 communists.....
but while the fascists always act as if they were more powerful, influential and representative than they really are, the communists always play the minority\cry baby\dscriminated role.
lucarelli didn't become a starter in italy's national team because we had better players...... there's no doubt lucarelli was a great player in his prime..... but the truth is, vieri (first) and toni (later) were just better options than him.
and as for miccoli he never had a fight with lippi's son (at least i've never heard of that). i think bandini and richardson were referring to miccoli's refusal to dump his agent and join Gea (lippi's son was in Gea, aswell as moggi's son).... if that was what they were referring to, then miccoli had a fight with moggi, not with lippi's son (that's a great story, btw).
infact miccoli himself always said there were no problems between him and lippi. that he always had a good relationship with lippi (also during his period at juventus) and that it was moggi the one who kicked him out of juve.
i agree that miccoli is a fantastic player, but to be honest, we have many great players in that role, so it's kinda hard to make it to the national team if u're an italian supporting striker.
i mean, look at di natale, he's an amazing player aswell... and yet, he only made it to the national team very late in his carreer......
PLF said:
Like guys said a few pages back as well, a big part of this is that in Balzaretti and Cassani, they not only have the two arguably best Italian full-backs right now but two of the best in the world and yet incredibly under-rated especially by those outside Italy of course some of whom haven't even heard of these two astonishingly enough!
i couldn't agree more
PLF said:
Not that anybody is comparing, but while I like Miccoli and as good as he is and as useful as he can be, I think even Ben will agree, Toto Di Natale >>> Fabrizio.
Di Natale is in a class above Miccoli but Fabrizio is still a very good player.
if by "class" u mean technique, i actually think they're pretty much on par.... i mean both miccoli and di natale can do whatever they want with a ball. and both are decisive players with great personality, leadership skills, and gutsyness.
but speaking of the national team, i agree with u; di natale is a better option than miccoli.
in a national team competition u can only bring 23 players.... so versatility becomes a key asset. it's extremely important to have players who can deliver in different roles, who can offer u many tactical options.
miccoli is a fantastic supporting striker, but that is his only role. he did play as a cf sometimes, but that's definitely not his main role.
di natale, on the other side, is unbelievably versatile. he is (like miccoli) a supporting striker. but u can also line him up as a winger and he will deliver just as well as he does in his proper role.
and last season, marino lined him up as a CF.... wich seemed to me very weird for a player like di natale..... and yet di natale proved me wrong, delivering one great performance after another all season long.
as a result of that di natale, even playing off position, managed to become serie a cannoniere (top scorer). he did better than any other cf in italy.
so i don't know about their class, but i'm sure di natale is more "complete" and versatile than miccoli, as he can play in any offensive role. and that's a pretty good reason to prefere him for the national team.
I think it is kinda offensive for City. He hasn't played full 3 matches there yet and we will never meet the price they paid. Some say Dinho might be included in the deal. Hope it goes though. We can sort out his attitude. Look, we made Robinho happy but I'll give him a year before he gets bored and starts making trouble.
the man became serie a's laughing stock.... in 2 years in perugia he played 1 single match.... and after that single match he failed a doping test and was found positive for nandrolone..... 
