Re: Serie A Thread - 2012/13 Season
bebo said:
I think translation in English sound more harsh. I read it in Italian and I must say Spanish and Latin is so similar. I dont think it`s racist imo . I`m called the little black sheep in the family, maybe saying sheep makes the difference. We know 'Hispanics' call each other negrito n negrita meaning 'sweetheart or honey.
as an italian, i can safely say that calling a black guy "negretto" is definitely racist. negretto is the italian equivalent of "negrito" in spanish.
the suffix "etto" (just like the suffix "ito" in spanish) is a term of endearment. terms of endearment aren't very common in english but they are in italian and spanish. they are small suffixes wich give an affectionate connotation to the word.
however the addition of the suffix doesn't make it less unappropriate for a white guy to call a black guy "negro".
of course non-white people aren't tied to semantics, but that's only because we can always be politically incorrect towards a genus, a class, a category we belong to. and that is because no one can discriminate himself.
quick example; if i would say "
most sicilian politics are a bunch of lazy corrupts", none of u would perceive my statement as politically incorrect or discriminating, because i would be stating an opinion on a class (sicilians) i myself belong to. but if a japanese or an american or an english or an australian would say the very same statement, it would be perceived by most as a cheap and discriminating generalization.
the offensive connotation of a word is never an innate quality of the word itself. it depends on the context. even common insults sometimes can assume an affectionate connotation, depending on the context.
that specific word (negretto), in that specific context, was definitely racist and unacceptable. i'm sure paolo berlusconi, being an uncultivated idiot, didn't mean to sound racist, but that's absolutely irrelevant. afterall racists are often completely unaware of their utter lack of decency (as bobby pointed out), but that doesn't make their behaviour any less despicable.
it's disgusting obviously, but honestly i don't understand why u people are so surprised. we're talking about a family with no class, no decency, no dignity whatsoever. i can't see how we could be surprised at their unappropriate boutades, no matter how low they sink. i mean, for god's sake, this man's brother once defined obama as a "young handsome tanned man"!! theese people haven't lost a single chance to embarass themselves and their country for the last 14 years.... why would they stop now.
Gerd said:
It baffles me that Milan was the first (or one of the first ?) sugar daddy club and that they came away with it without getting the stick Chelsea and Man City get...
actually berlusconi got a lot of stick in his first years as milan president. people just don't remember it. i remember rivera and many others tried to oppose him with all their strenght. infact i'd say berlusca got much more stick than most modern sugar daddies.
anyway i agree with stefano, i believe signing mario was galliani's idea. everybody loves balotelli (even if he's a bit of an ass) but he's not a signing big enough to move electoral consensus (like, say, ibra or ronaldo or thiago silva).
besides berlusconi is already gaining huge consensus with his "no taxes" policy.... he doesn't need balotelli.
I hear white youths call each other niggas 
the word nigg with'er' is a whole different story.
will be in the shitter soon enough though 
