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If you play as Chelsea in the Dreamfinder patch, just some advices.
- Yes rely on Drogba, he is a goal machine, none of the other strikers can do it as consistently as he can in the squad.
- Makelele is a must on the pitch, yes.
- He might feel off at the beginning but make sure to start Tiago next to Lampard. He is great ballwinner and amazing in the air in both offense and defense. Geremi and Parker couldnt do the same what he did.
- Just stick in Kezman on the left wing, he won me 5 penalties in the season. Extremely agile.
- Do not disregard Forssel, he can play also on both wings and a great super sub, and very prolific. Only realized it at 3/4 of the season when fatigue set in, but i would start him over Joe Cole and Duff any day.
 
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No for option file you need the editor to import, and optipix image studio to convert the image to the bit depth required, which I don't recall right now.
Thanks. It's just getting it ready to import. I've managed to find a way but it looks terrible - the method I used before, with those two programs - made it look way better. It's driving me crazy that I can't find it. I'm sure it was a regular in this thread who posted about it!
 
Do you have only consoles or also a PC?
Neither at present. I am considering getting a console, PS2, but I wanted to understand if this was best way of going about it. I'm not to technical at all so I thought a backward PS3 would be the best way forward then I stumbled across modded PS2s and then I heard there are ways to manipulate the AI in the game and so I'm really just trying to understand all the options. I probably go the PS2 route but I also wanted to understand if online play was possible with theses versions.

The aim of course is to start leagues and tournaments and bring PES back to the consciousness of the masses.

Viva la Evolution!
 
Hi people. I have a specific question if anybody knows.
My favorite gameplay is in J.league winning eleven 2009 club championship. Biggest issue with that game is that if you play fantasista mode you only play in japanese league. I have come to the idea (if it is even possible).
First to be clear, I have no modding experience, so I ask experts if this is possible. I would like to "put" j.league winning eleven 2009 club championship gameplay into winning eleven 2009 so that I could play become a legend with european clubs and leagues. My idea is that someone tweaks winning eleven 2009 .iso file and change some parameters to do that.
So probably as my logic says, those values should first needed to be found in j.league winning eleven 2009 club championship, and then copied to winning eleven 2009. I asked AI about which values should be modified and got this results: ball friction/resistance, dribbling speed modifier, ball weight value.
If someone would recreate j.league winning eleven 2009 club championship gameplay into winning eleven 2009 and placed it here in one .iso file it would be dream game!
Cheers!
 
Neither at present. I am considering getting a console, PS2, but I wanted to understand if this was best way of going about it. I'm not to technical at all so I thought a backward PS3 would be the best way forward then I stumbled across modded PS2s and then I heard there are ways to manipulate the AI in the game and so I'm really just trying to understand all the options. I probably go the PS2 route but I also wanted to understand if online play was possible with theses versions.

The aim of course is to start leagues and tournaments and bring PES back to the consciousness of the masses.

Viva la Evolution!
On pc you can play all games of all platforms of all past times.. Both ( PC and... consoles games through pc-emulators); PC can also permits to play "SP Football Life 2026" (modded and updated standalone version of cracked PES 2021 for PC; title that isn't more available in online shops
 
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On pc you can play all games of all platforms of all past times.. Both ( PC and... consoles games through pc-emulators); PC can also permits to play "SP Football Life 2026" (modded and updated standalone version of cracked PES 2021 for PC; title that isn't more available in online shops
Oh really? This I didn't know.

This may sound silly but would it work the same on a laptop? Next consideration is cost - what do you think the minimum spec PC would be required?
 
Oh really? This I didn't know.
Yes really
This may sound silly but would it work the same on a laptop?

Of course, provided it meets the recommended hardware specifications


Next consideration is cost - what do you think the minimum spec PC would be required?
PES 2021 PC (so also Football Life 2026) has relatively low recommended specifications for a 1920x1080 resolution monitor compared to a modern gaming PC

PES 2021 Recommended system requirements for High Settings and Screen resolution 1920x1080 (60 FPS):

Windows 10 (64-bit)
Intel Core i7-3770, AMD FX 8350 (very old CPUs compared to the specifications required by the latest games of other types)
8 GB RAM
NVIDIA GTX 760, AMD Radeon R9 270X 4 GB VRAM (very old GPUs gaming compared to the specifications required by the latest games of other types )
DirectX 11.0
40 GB free disk space (at least 120 GB required for Football life 2026 and its completed FacePack)


As you can see, you could even find an old gaming PC (on used market) from a few years back and, if you choose wisely, play at the highest settings for relatively little money the latest PES available. (Modding is a great resource on PC, here on evoweb)

Once you have a PC with Recommended system requirements for PES 2021. you are sure you can play all the previous PES of all the past

Clearly, if you want to play in 4K, the requirements increase, particularly for the graphics card, which must handle that resolution, but also if you have a 4k TV or monitor you can scales it to play also on HD Resolution of 1920x1080 if your PC specs cant's support 4k

Personally I have an old PC with Intel I7-7700K 4,3GHz, 16GB RAM, with a GPU AMD RX 6600 XT 8GB updated 2 years ago
when I had to change my monitor, and I play PES2021/FL2026 on my new 32" 4K monitor, at scaled resolution of 3200x1800 pixel at 60 fps with high settings without any issue... with my GPU if I try 4k res... I obtain max 50 fps and it's not optimal
 
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Yes really


Of course, provided it meets the recommended hardware specifications



PES 2021 PC (so also Football Life 2026) has relatively low recommended specifications for a 1920x1080 resolution monitor compared to a modern gaming PC

PES 2021 Recommended system requirements for High Settings and Screen resolution 1920x1080 (60 FPS):

Windows 10 (64-bit)
Intel Core i7-3770, AMD FX 8350 (very old CPUs compared to the specifications required by the latest games of other types)
8 GB RAM
NVIDIA GTX 760, AMD Radeon R9 270X (very old GPUs gaming compared to the specifications required by the latest games of other types )
4 GB VRAM
DirectX 11.0
40 GB free disk space (more GB required for Football life 2026 and its FacePack)


As you can see, you could even find an old gaming PC (on used market) from a few years back and, if you choose wisely, play games at the highest settings for relatively little money to play the latest PES available. (Modding is a great resource on PC, here on evoweb)

Once you have a PC with Recommended system requirements for PES 2021. you are sure you can play all the previous PES of all the past

Clearly, if you want to play in 4K, the requirements increase, particularly for the graphics card, which must handle that resolution, but also if you have a 4k TV or monitor you can scales it to play also on HD Resolution of 1920x1080 if your PC specs cant's support 4k

Personally I have an old PC with Intel I7-7700K 4,3GHz, 16GB RAM, with a GPU AMD RX 6600 XT 8GB updated 2 years ago
when I had to change my monitor, and I play PES2021/FL2026 on my new 32" 4K monitor, at scaled resolution of 3200x1800 pixel at 60 fps with high settings without any issue... with my GPU if I try 4k res... I obtain max 50 fps and it's not optimal
Thank you, this is very helpful. My knowledge on gaming Pcs or even PCs in general is relatively low so I will have to do some investigating on how to even gain access to the games and emulators.

Are all the edits and patches for PC versions? or do some people make patches for Playstation versions but only for versions playable on emulators?
 
Thank you, this is very helpful. My knowledge on gaming Pcs or even PCs in general is relatively low so I will have to do some investigating on how to even gain access to the games and emulators.

Are all the edits and patches for PC versions? or do some people make patches for Playstation versions but only for versions playable on emulators?
There are also patched PS2 game ISOs, but they date back to the ps2 age of gaming and very few people bother with them these days to update them ... On the PC, however, there’s still a vibrant scene for PC modding for that era games... The PC has always been more versatile in this respect consoles (more comfortable also because you don't need to burn DVDs in case your console haven't a modded chip to use USB iso of games)... The Story of this forum in his editing section is iconic now... ISOs that work on the PS2 also work on emulators while PC games of the past with modded and patches can't work on consoles... In fact, with emulators you can make better use of lots of little things on the fly, such as patching them via the PC in a flash and adjusting the resolution and aspect ratio for modern 16:9 screens without need to burn a new dvd as for consoles... For someone who isn’t a collector or nostalgic for consoles – in your case, as you don’t own one – I’d definitely always opt for a PC, especially because you’ll still be able to play Football Life 2027 or other mods and so on in the future... something that console owners can't unable to do anymore; if you lost latest pes games and want to play it you will not unable to play on console because they aren't more available on their shops
as for the WE/PES series having a PC , is like having all the consoles but with the advantage also to continue to receive always new updates for pes2021 or also old PES6 by community
 
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I'm trying a make a original season patch for this WE8-JL-AC and I'm import players from WE8 with special face and hair and they worked very well!
I'm change the camera too, with this tool too!
Ok I'm amazed that from this version they already had real hairs and faces but hidden , I'm waiting for you to finish and I'm excited to try this out !
 
There are also patched PS2 game ISOs, but they date back to the ps2 age of gaming and very few people bother with them these days to update them ... On the PC, however, there’s still a vibrant scene for PC modding for that era games... The PC has always been more versatile in this respect consoles (more comfortable also because you don't need to burn DVDs in case your console haven't a modded chip to use USB iso of games)... The Story of this forum in his editing section is iconic now... ISOs that work on the PS2 also work on emulators while PC games of the past with modded and patches can't work on consoles... In fact, with emulators you can make better use of lots of little things on the fly, such as patching them via the PC in a flash and adjusting the resolution and aspect ratio for modern 16:9 screens without need to burn a new dvd as for consoles... For someone who isn’t a collector or nostalgic for consoles – in your case, as you don’t own one – I’d definitely always opt for a PC, especially because you’ll still be able to play Football Life 2027 or other mods and so on in the future... something that console owners can't unable to do anymore; if you lost latest pes games and want to play it you will not unable to play on console because they aren't more available on their shops
as for the WE/PES series having a PC , is like having all the consoles but with the advantage also to continue to receive always new updates for pes2021 or also old PES6 by community
Okay, again very helpful, thank you.

And one last question, I buy a gaming PC or laptop and all/latest PES, WE or FL patches for PC or emulators are located her in this forum or news of its availability will be mentioned here?
 
Okay, again very helpful, thank you.

And one last question, I buy a gaming PC or laptop and all/latest PES, WE or FL patches for PC or emulators are located her in this forum or news of its availability will be mentioned here?
yes most of patches are locate in the editing section of forum... in this thread and others you can find also link to download ISOs of olds games, or you can ask here. While on SP SMOKE TEAM site... you can download the standalone and updated version of pes2021, now named Football Life 2026... with it's proper new gameplay; if you click on my signature below, you can find also various gameplays mods for it...

While emulators for old consoles are here with links:

Playstation emulators: epsxe... in alternative DuckStation...

Playstation 2 emulator; pcsx2...

Playstation 3 emulator: rpcs3...
 
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YES! Read that, searched for PNGoo, Google returned PNGQuant and the bells started ringing. It was that, and Inkscape, as suggested by @Juventino32 ages ago!

I am glad that helped you a bit.

I have to write a step by step guide for everything I edit otherwise the following season I forget what to do :LOL:
 
yes most of patches are locate in the editing section of forum... in this thread and others you can find also link to download ISOs of olds games, or you can ask here. While on SP SMOKE TEAM site... you can download the standalone and updated version of pes2021, now named Football Life 2026... with it's proper new gameplay; if you click on my signature below, you can find also various gameplays mods for it...

While emulators for old consoles are here with links:

Playstation emulators: epsxe... in alternative DuckStation...

Playstation 2 emulator; pcsx2...

Playstation 3 emulator: rpcs3...
Understood, thank you.

Now to find a PC..
 
A quick question guys, if I download the FM26 logo pack will I be able to use them in PES 2008 PS2 version?

I thought I would ask before I fork out £2.99 :P

Here is the link ....

https://www.footballmanagerblog.org/p/fm26-logo-pack-download.html

PS. I know that I would have to change the format etc... but just asking if you think they will look good?

Donwload TCM logos for FM, they are free and you can play around.

https://www.tcmlogos.com/

I have to say that I hate this kind of monetization. It's one thing if you provide an app with updates or a mod for a game that requires millions of hours to do. But I see things like that, FM logos that were free since the dawn of time to download, or low-effort PES patches that people want 5-10e to sell etc. These things are damaging the modding scene imo. I mean, pay-walling for 2.99, really?
 
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Good day all 🙂

Not sure where to post this. Mods can move if not suited for this thread.

I’m having issues with my laptop when playing PES 2016, 17 & 18. I get a green hue around the players when they are in motion. Also it appears if the graphical fidelity totally drops every 2 seconds. I get this issue with the vanilla versions as well as the PES Galaxy patch installed for 2016.

My laptop is restricted to 1080p as this is the screen resolution. I however have no issues when I hook the laptop up to my TV and play in 4k resolution. The issue seems to be exclusive to my laptop screen at 1080p.

I have a Nvidia 3070 graphics card. Are there any settings you can suggest to change to get the game to run well at 1080p? It seems odd that I have a problem with 1080p as this is a common resolution to play at.

As mentioned above, I have this issue on the vanilla steam versions of 16,17 & 18. This isn’t a patch issue. It seems to be my laptop screen is struggling to display the games correctly.

Any help would be great 😀

Thank you.
 
Good day all 🙂

Not sure where to post this. Mods can move if not suited for this thread.

I’m having issues with my laptop when playing PES 2016, 17 & 18. I get a green hue around the players when they are in motion. Also it appears if the graphical fidelity totally drops every 2 seconds. I get this issue with the vanilla versions as well as the PES Galaxy patch installed for 2016.

My laptop is restricted to 1080p as this is the screen resolution. I however have no issues when I hook the laptop up to my TV and play in 4k resolution. The issue seems to be exclusive to my laptop screen at 1080p.

I have a Nvidia 3070 graphics card. Are there any settings you can suggest to change to get the game to run well at 1080p? It seems odd that I have a problem with 1080p as this is a common resolution to play at.

As mentioned above, I have this issue on the vanilla steam versions of 16,17 & 18. This isn’t a patch issue. It seems to be my laptop screen is struggling to display the games correctly.

Any help would be great 😀

Thank you.
probably it's a hardware problem into your Screen
 
I experience stuttering during corners and free kicks in the Winning Eleven series on NTSC/60Hz, but I have no problems at all in the PES series on PAL/50Hz. I play using PS2 OPL Manager. Is there a solution to this?
Does anyone have an idea?
 
Donwload TCM logos for FM, they are free and you can play around.

https://www.tcmlogos.com/

I have to say that I hate this kind of monetization. It's one thing if you provide an app with updates or a mod for a game that requires millions of hours to do. But I see things like that, FM logos that were free since the dawn of time to download, or low-effort PES patches that people want 5-10e to sell etc. These things are damaging the modding scene imo. I mean, pay-walling for 2.99, really?

Maybe we should just code a XenForo PES Shop plugin with redeemable pes points for cash
Something to finally quell their thirst for a quick buck...

Its only going to get worse I think. Micropayments for everything are becoming more effortless and normalized in this hustle culture... Rent, food, fuel costs keep rising. People will start charging for every little thing they do online until its almost a meme i think, as these two processes continue to unfold. Also if more people are living on welfare or UBI with AI taking jobs then these sort of side hustles like small pes patches are going to seem like an opportunity or real job to them to top up their weekly payments

And as you noticed it also seems to work inversely the lowest effort patches (made by the least capable people) are the most likely to be monetized first. Meanwhile its the largest bodies of work (the magnum opuses of the masters / geniuses / pes fanatics) that get released for free to maximize their reach and benefit to the pes community and games…....
Anyway lets watch how bad it gets with an amused perspective.
 
Maybe we should just code a XenForo PES Shop plugin with redeemable pes points for cash
Something to finally quell their thirst for a quick buck...

Its only going to get worse I think. Micropayments for everything are becoming more effortless and normalized in this hustle culture... Rent, food, fuel costs keep rising. People will start charging for every little thing they do online until its almost a meme i think, as these two processes continue to unfold. Also if more people are living on welfare or UBI with AI taking jobs then these sort of side hustles like small pes patches are going to seem like an opportunity or real job to them to top up their weekly payments

And as you noticed it also seems to work inversely the lowest effort patches (made by the least capable people) are the most likely to be monetized first. Meanwhile its the largest bodies of work (the magnum opuses of the masters / geniuses / pes fanatics) that get released for free to maximize their reach and benefit to the pes community and games…....
Anyway lets watch how bad it gets with an amused perspective.
“Sooner or later some madman will come up with a Marketplace DLC :P


  • HD grass – €2.99
  • referee whistle sound – €1.49
  • real player names – preorder bonus

Season Pass for the patch (free tier: Ekstraklasa demo)
Premium Tier: unlock the rest of the stadium names
Ultimate Edition: the scoreboard actually works


And let’s not forget:
Lootboxes:
‘Rare Facepack Drop!’ → you get a random regen with a haircut from Pro Evolution Soccer 6 from 2004 😂


But seriously… let’s just hope we don’t reach the point where you need a subscription to even launch Master League.” :D

At the same time, the best and most ambitious projects in the PES scene are still usually made out of passion and released for free. Hopefully that balance stays, and we don’t end up in a situation where everything is locked behind payments.
 
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Donwload TCM logos for FM, they are free and you can play around.

https://www.tcmlogos.com/

I have to say that I hate this kind of monetization. It's one thing if you provide an app with updates or a mod for a game that requires millions of hours to do. But I see things like that, FM logos that were free since the dawn of time to download, or low-effort PES patches that people want 5-10e to sell etc. These things are damaging the modding scene imo. I mean, pay-walling for 2.99, really?

Fair enough @paokkerkir but when I am trying to download free logos and get pop ups popping up all over the place, I prefer to just pay and be done with it. ;)
 
@Energia Pcsx2 is an (almost) emulator for all games.... But not for PES (aswell as many others games)
I ain't at all a PC gamer but like you i sometimes plug my PC to my 4k screen for some games.
There's still a lot of glitches, part of hair disappearing, same for shirt etc. etc. for almost everything. It's due to, as you know there's 5 level of details (number and quality of polygons and textures etc.) regarding the distance and type of player if i remember well.

Now, on Retroarch (even the windows version) you got an emulator called LRPS2 with a special rendered called ParaLLEl-GS.
I don't know if it runs on Windows, but it's another system to upscale games, which doesn't give ANY sort of pixels issues.
The upscaling is more like a very smart filter more than a bold and simple polygons/texture definition multiplicator, + you got the SMAA in more i think (or the upscaler is only based on a filter like SMAA but made for PS2 architexture, i don't remember)
All Ps2 Emulator runs really bad Ridge Racer V for example and that's a must have great game from the Ps exclusives.
Only that one managed to run RR5 in High Definition and it's the closer render you can get to the real machine overboosted.
There's a windows version of Retroarch (sadly it runs only as a Retroarch core) but it's normally made for ARM or Android...

Now, there's a way to solve the Windows problem : you can mount a multi emulator with LRPS2 core on it like i suggest Batocera, and change the bios to run as the 1st device (you just got to remove the usb when you want and Windows will run as a 1st device ;) )
-The big advantage with that method is about performances (as you PC don't have to run W10 or 11 in the same time) so you can run RPCS3 and Xenia too, as Batocera can run hundred of consoles. And it's a bit like you can get an extra multi-emulation device to transform your PC just with a simple plug-in and only a big and a small storage for the OS (far easier like that, from experience).

If you're interested how to mount all those stuffs : i can make a package with all you need (except roms of course, you can found it everywhere) but on the Retrogaming thread, and some tips in PM. I won't answer directly
 
@Energia Pcsx2 is an (almost) emulator for all games.... But not for PES (aswell as many others games)
I ain't at all a PC gamer but like you i sometimes plug my PC to my 4k screen for some games.
There's still a lot of glitches, part of hair disappearing, same for shirt etc. etc. for almost everything. It's due to, as you know there's 5 level of details (number and quality of polygons and textures etc.) regarding the distance and type of player if i remember well.
I know what you mean, but to be honest, on my hardware it’s practically a thing of the past now also on PCSX2, except in very rare, almost imperceptible cases – and you really have to be looking very closely to spot them.and in very few instances, if you really go looking for them with a magnifying glass, you might notice for a split second (especially in replays on some hair few pixels and not all the hair) a few momentary but almost imperceptible glitches... but really, that’s only because you’re looking for them and you know about this issue... otherwise, on my 4K Monitor, I wouldn’t notice a thing during the matches... I think it all comes down to using the latest version of PCSX2 and finding the best graphics settings for your hardware... I set PCSX2 through my GPU's control panel all filters ad options to the max available... and changed something also on graphic settings of PCSX2 emulator

I’m not sure whether the improvement regarding the LOD issue, in my case, is also down to the fact that I’ve patched all my PS2 ISOs using Super Camera Editor, setting the zoom to 950 as the default for all cameras, but I can be satisfied by what I see

However in a very recent past I tried also RetroArch with its internal PS2 emulator and I come back on PCSx2 ;)

Batocera for sure is another excellent solution, you can adopt it if you want to try a different approach for emulation and I think can be very interesting for many ;)
 
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