The Retro-PES Corner

[Energia]

reefur's WE8-JL-AC patch 1.0 AFC+UEFA Edition

Hi brothas!
Someone can upload this patch please?
I can't find anywere on the internet...

Personally I have only the original iso patched with this eng text patch:

https://evoweb.uk/threads/j-league-winning-eleven-8-asia-championship-english-patch.98218/

 

[geeeeee]

I don't like seeing players with 54 speed as well, but pes2008 is simply too fast for me to enjoy with proper stats. I said that, not to imply that now PES2008 is slower, but to point that the speed does not affect the AI difficulty.

For the rest I agree, the stats decrease pass speed etc. There should be a engine value that affects overall game speed - not the way that kitserver speeder does it (which just lowers the framerate), and hopefully we'll be able to find it eventually.

And no, WE2008 5 stars (and 6) is not equal to Top Player PES2008.

I totally agree with this. For me personally PES 2008 is the best version but with adjusted speed stats. Vanilla version is unplayable for me because it is much too fast.

I don’t think there is anything wrong with adjusting stats. PES 5 vanilla is good but with reduced Ability (or agility) and increased Team Work it is better 😉

 

[Energia]

I can confirm that also if it isn't listed inside it, super camera editor, can modify camera zoom with right 16:9 aspect ratio also on PS2 ISO of Junior League WE8 Asia Championship

 

[BALA_SP_BR]

Personally I have only the original iso patched with this eng text patch:

https://evoweb.uk/threads/j-league-winning-eleven-8-asia-championship-english-patch.98218/

Thanx brow, I had this ISO too, I've been search the reefur's WE8-JL-AC patch 1.0 AFC+UEFA Edition because they put Chinese kits licenceds...

 

[BALA_SP_BR]

Personally I have only the original iso patched with this eng text patch:

https://evoweb.uk/threads/j-league-winning-eleven-8-asia-championship-english-patch.98218/

I'm trying a make a original season patch for this WE8-JL-AC and I'm import players from WE8 with special face and hair and they worked very well!
I'm change the camera too, with this tool too!

 

[PES4eva]

I'm trying a make a original season patch for this WE8-JL-AC and I'm import players from WE8 with special face and hair and they worked very well!
I'm change the camera too, with this tool too!

Very nice. Can you have original camera and original aspect ratio of 4:3

 

[robertob]

using the search button (setting it on this thread) it can be useful to help you find what you want :

Post in thread 'The Retro-PES Corner'

11 November 2025

if some one search a translated version (Eng text) of Winning Eleven 10 Liveware Evolution (korea only - PS2):

Download...

I deleted by error my copy, so I had to search it again...

This was the real latest gameplay evolution by konami for WE10/PES6 serie

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This plays great - surpisingly different to PES6, quite a bit slower, good flow to the game, nice passing and shooting, ad more challenging and varied AI. I like it.

It's intriguing to me, that all the WELE games generally play slower, with a stronger AI. Is that simply because those games had that tiny bit longer development time? Or is it because Konami perceived the audience for these games different to the PES players? I.e. was PES somewhat "dumbed down"? I notice that with WE9LE, WE10LE and also with the J.League WE 2010 CC compared to PES 2010.

 

[dontellmama]

In terms of ground pass physics, JLWE8 is even better than JLWE9! The ground passes in all WE/PES games are either as soft as a volleyball or as heavy as a shot put.

 

[NeoRetro]

J-League WE2007cc (winter transfers) and JLWE10 Europa (summer transfers) are way better than that thing (WE10 korean LE).

I tried it, retried again and again after some advice here and i don't like it : it's damn way too fast and too similar to Pes6.
It's the latest, but without any transfers made, weird no? I suppose that it's another team, perhaps linked with Korean, which made that game.
To me, a final evolution or liveware evolution (means + online in reality) where version with all updated and revamped, it's not the case for WE10LE and WE9LE > Same roster as Pes 5 and 6 august from the previous year. To me it's just the Korean version of Pes6, with another name. Ah yes they got new facebuild but zero transfers.

All the one i mention are 1st Pes6 Debug (JLWE10) And PES6 Final Evolution (not only bugs are rectified but the gameplay is way better, much more balanced : to me the best of the best version looking at "PES 6 Era" without any doubt. JLWE10 got some transfers from summer in more but not that much unfortunately.
But to be honest, i preferred times when there was "Final/Liveware Evolution" with rosters updated and gameplay revamped than the J-League combination for a Pes/We enhanced debugged final version. Well it probably took them too much time to do both, so they mixed J-League with European Leagues... BUT why i said that i miss it : for the national teams in more. There's for example J-league version for both

 

[NeoRetro]

The ground pass physics in JLWE8 are even better than those in JLWE9! The ground passes in all WE/PES games are either as soft as a volleyball or as heavy as a shot put.

It's a great game not exactly like WE8LE but still a big change in comparison to Pes 4. I also love JLWE9 through. But Pes 4 (too much bug, WE8le was the savior at the time), the one the community didn't liked that much, got a very good little engine especially the ball physics 👍

Another thing : is that me or Pes 4 seems to be, Pc and console wise, the most beautiful version? I don't know, it looks cleaner than any others versions to me. Like if every animation where made for that game, i think ever body build/shape is different but that's perhaps a placebo with the cam or something like that...

 

[dontellmama]

I can confirm that also if it isn't listed inside it, super camera editor, can modify camera zoom with right 16:9 aspect ratio also on PS2 ISO of Junior League WE8 Asia Championship

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The defensive AI in the PS2-era WE/PES games is all TERRIBLE (those between WE5 and WE7i are slightly better), and zooming out the camera infinitely magnifies this flaw.

 

[dontellmama]

J-League WE2007cc (winter transfers) and JLWE10 Europa (summer transfers) are way better than that thing (WE10 korean LE).

I tried it, retried again and again after some advice here and i don't like it : it's damn way too fast and too similar to Pes6.
It's the latest, but without any transfers made, weird no? I suppose that it's another team, perhaps linked with Korean, which made that game.
To me, a final evolution or liveware evolution (means + online in reality) where version with all updated and revamped, it's not the case for WE10LE and WE9LE > Same roster as Pes 5 and 6 august from the previous year. To me it's just the Korean version of Pes6, with another name. Ah yes they got new facebuild but zero transfers.

All the one i mention are 1st Pes6 Debug (JLWE10) And PES6 Final Evolution (not only bugs are rectified but the gameplay is way better, much more balanced : to me the best of the best version looking at "PES 6 Era" without any doubt. JLWE10 got some transfers from summer in more but not that much unfortunately.
But to be honest, i preferred times when there was "Final/Liveware Evolution" with rosters updated and gameplay revamped than the J-League combination for a Pes/We enhanced debugged final version. Well it probably took them too much time to do both, so they mixed J-League with European Leagues... BUT why i said that i miss it : for the national teams in more. There's for example J-league version for both

Indeed, WE10LE is the FASTEST among the WE/PES games of the PS2 era.

 

[Energia]

The defensive AI in the PS2-era WE/PES games is all TERRIBLE (those between WE5 and WE7i are slightly better), and zooming out the camera infinitely magnifies this flaw.

zomming out It does not negatively affect gameplay, but only provides better visibility of the entire field with the correct 16:9 aspect ratio for modern monitors, at least on PCs with emulators.

 

[NeoRetro]

Indeed, WE10LE is the FASTEST among the WE/PES games of the PS2 era.

The first time i tried i was waiting Benny Hill track but nothing happened.
Honestly that's exactly what i felt, and i told it to @Madmac79 as my 1st impression / You see Pes 6? It's the same but even faster, it's super f***ing fast i can't play that thing

 

[dontellmama]

zomming out doesnìt affect negativitly nothing (at least on a pc by PCSX2 emulator)...only a better wide visual to play with modern screen with also the right aspect ratio for 16:9 monitor

My point is that the further you zoom the camera out, the more you can observe the poor overall defensive AI.

 

[Energia]

My point is that the further you zoom the camera out, the more you can observe the poor overall defensive AI.

I don't really understand the point... noticing the defence's positioning more is only what you see, but the game remains the same. At least you have better visibility of the whole pitch, which we couldn't have before at 4:3 era tv

 

[dontellmama]

I don't really understand the point... noticing the defence's positioning more is only what you see, but the game remains the same. At least you have better visibility of the whole pitch, which we couldn't have before at 4:3 era tv

I certainly don't mean that zooming the camera out affects or changes the gameplay, maybe my English just too poor.
I think the 16:9, 1350, Normal Far camera is the best.

 

[dontellmama]

The first time i tried i was waiting Benny Hill track but nothing happened.
Honestly that's exactly what i felt, and i told it to @Madmac79 as my 1st impression / You see Pes 6? It's the same but even faster, it's super f***ing fast i can't play that thing

If the overall pace of WE10LE and WE8LE could be adjusted to be slower, they would be able to rank among the Top 5 WE/PES games of the PS2 era.

 

[Energia]

If the overall pace of WE10LE and WE8LE could be adjusted to be slower, they would be able to rank among the Top 5 WE/PES games of the PS2 era.

I would like to point out that if you play on moderns 16:9 TV/monitors without correcting the aspect ratio for 16:9, the game on the same screen, due to the squashing effect caused by only horizontal stretching of the image, appears and is perceived as faster and more frenetic... So, beyond the Zoom, it is absolutely necessary to use Super Camera Editor to fix the aspect ratio of PS2 games that were made for 4:3 TVs.

 

[Flipper the Priest]

I've searched, and I'm at a loss.

Someone (probably about two years ago) posted a really easy method of making PS2 emblems. It involved two programs - one to open the image and resize the canvas, and another (which was just a drag and drop affair) to do the rest.

I know this is vague, but it's all I've got. New laptop so I don't have the programs.

 

[paokkerkir]

For importing in the flg files what I do is this:

Resize/change canvas with paint.net.
Drag and drop with Game Graphic Studio

If needed, Optipix Image Studio is great for palette changes and reindexing.

 

[Flipper the Priest]

For importing in the flg files what I do is this:

Resize/change canvas with paint.net.
Drag and drop with Game Graphic Studio

If needed, Optipix Image Studio is great for palette changes and reindexing.

I think I understand most of that - so thanks! 😄

I'm talking about a good old-fashioned option file here. Does that method work for that?

 

[paokkerkir]

No for option file you need the editor to import, and optipix image studio to convert the image to the bit depth required, which I don't recall right now.

 

[JVCK SVMUELS]

Hello community.

I’ll start out this post by being brutally honest with all of you: for both EA and PES, offline football gaming is dead.

All efforts have been allocated to the online, micro-transaction-fueled experience because that’s where the profit is, so naturally this state of affairs won’t change anytime soon; if anything, I believe this tendency will become more obvious as years go by and therefore the culture of online gaming consolidates itself as the fundamental part of any football game.

For all I know, I could wake up tomorrow and find out there was a new football game that fulfilled my dreams of a realistic Human vs. AI football simulation. But sadly, I find neither current PES nor current FIFA satisfying, let alone even innovative, and it has been like this for a few years now.

Disappointed with such state of affairs, I had to find a worthwhile football “fix”. Unfortunately I don’t have as much time for gaming as I had ten, fifteen years ago so the little time I have to spend on it is absolutely precious, therefore not to be wasted on games I don’t even enjoy just because they're new and shiny.

So over the course of countless months I sampled every FIFA and PES title I own – glad I didn’t sell any of them – on multiple platforms, to see if I could find at least one that satisfied me. What I discovered on this journey shook me…

….I didn’t take full advantage of any of these games.

For example I barely played PES2009 at all because I was completely infatuated with FIFA09 back then. I didn’t even try out a few PES on platforms such as the PC or the PSP because I always played on the PS2/3.

As for the games I spent the most time on in the past – maybe PES5 and 6, 2013 too -, still it turned out not to be enough time spent to appreciate all of what the game had to offer. This was mainly due to the fact that yearly iterations of the game contribute for the players to only utilize a very small percentage of each version’s possibilities.

Let me put it this way: when was the last time you played a full Become a Legend career, from the player’s debut to past his 30th birthday? My answer: I NEVER did it.

Out of all the teams in every version, how many did you use for your ML adventures? My answer, let’s see: out of many hundreds of teams available in every version, I used an average of 2 teams in each, two ML saves. Let’s say I played 10 versions of PES: 2x10 versions = 20 teams, multiply every team on 10 versions of PES and you’ll realize as I did that I’ve used 20 teams out of a total of…THOUSANDS! If we consider that there are around 50 players in two squads, and I bought on average 15/20 players in every single one of my ML adventures throughout the years, how many thousands of players haven’t I used?

When was the last time you won the WC on the hardest setting with the five worst National Teams in the game? When was the last time you won the WEFA/CL with the worst club in the game?

There’s much more on my checklist that I never accomplished – and much more I’m only now adding to that same checklist - not only due to my shortage of time, but mainly because I always had to get the next version of PES/FIFA and start it all anew, whilst “putting away on a shelf” all the progress I had made on the previous one.

Playing all of these games again sparked up my creativity and made me come up with new ways to fulfill my only objective: to get the most out of every single football game I wish to play. Now I’m opening this topic on Evo-Web not only because I want to share my retro PES adventures with you, but encouraging also all of you to do the same.

These adventures obviously will include ML saves, but not just. There’s a ML adventures thread you can use but that topic naturally allows only ML discussion, whilst here the discussion is not only exclusively Retro but also allows for ANY type of Retro-PES discussion besides the Master League: whether you played Random Selection Match and had a blast, or you’re updating us on your last week of your 7th Become a Legend season on PES2010, even if you just played a friendly match on PES3 I want you to write about it. I don’t know what do you think of it, but I love writing and also reading detailed analysis on players, teams, and experiences within the game. So anything that keeps the Retro-PES discussion alive is welcomed.

The only rule of the topic is: the game you wish to speak of MUST NOT be the current version, so as of April 2018 I can't talk about PES2018 but could speak of my adventures on PES2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, and so on until PES1 (I guess we could include ISS too, if you have enough balls to go back and play those games).

Just to be clear, this doesn’t mean I’m going against modern FIFA or PES. If you enjoy PES2018 or you’re reading this in 2019 and you believe PES2019 is the greatest game ever, I have nothing against it, by all means enjoy it. I just believe we have to create and maintain a culture of retro-football gaming to keep the passion for PES alive even among those whose passion for it either has vanished completely or is fading away – and there’s a lot of people who fit this description. Still, the culture of retro can coexist with the culture of modern gaming, we’re all free men and grown-ups here so we can play whatever we want whenever we want. This means you can enjoy the current-year’s PES AND at the same time enjoy a past PES game enough to write about it here on this topic if you feel like it.

If you’re still reading this long post, welcome to the Retro-PES Corner, the only place on Earth where you’re actually encouraged to write thousand-word posts about videogames that were released back when Robben and Iniesta still had hair.

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THIS!!

This is the is the energy and inspiration I have been looking for, I cannot beleive it has taken me this long to find this place!

For context I have not owned a console since 2013/2014 which coincided with the death PES. This around the time FIFA was cementing itself as the dominant football game and collective interest in PES was dying. I myself never converted. I would rather die than give my football soul to FIFA so i quit gaming altogether. Fast forward a decade and some years, I has the brilliant idea of purchasing a backwards compatible PS3 to play Pro to my hearts content. This lead me to PS2 mods and then to this forum and this thread.

I will be working my way around this forum in the weeks and months to come and most certainly keep you all posed on my return to pro.

Hope to meet many similar enthusiast on the journey.

JS

 

[Energia]

THIS!!

This is the is the energy and inspiration I have been looking for, I cannot beleive it has taken me this long to find this place!

For context I have not owned a console since 2013/2014 which coincided with the death PES. This around the time FIFA was cementing itself as the dominant football game and collective interest in PES was dying. I myself never converted. I would rather die than give my football soul to FIFA so i quit gaming altogether. Fast forward a decade and some years, I has the brilliant idea of purchasing a backwards compatible PS3 to play Pro to my hearts content. This lead me to PS2 mods and then to this forum and this thread.

I will be working my way around this forum in the weeks and months to come and most certainly keep you all posed on my return to pro.

Hope to meet many similar enthusiast on the journey.

JS

welcome to forum... Did you already read all 628 pages after the first post of 19 april 2018 you quoted?

After that time also others PES are released by konami... until PES2021... mobile phones and efootball ruined all... By now, everything is retro

 

[JVCK SVMUELS]

Ha ha ha ha!

Yes I know, this is why I have been in a self imposed exile. But I hope with the help of custom patches, consoles and this forum, I can start a movement.

Viva la Evolution!!

 

[gabe.paul.logan]

So i have started a League season with Chelsea in the EPL for funsies, im using the Dreamfinder 04-05 patch.
Chelsea won that season so i was curious to take up this challenge, but it is so stressful to stay in the title race.

League table after round 23.

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Fixture 36 is up.
Well Chelsea only got 3 losses but of course some potential relegation sides once managed to beat us, then the other drew against us so MU catches up and lead by 3 pts.

But up next....

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[PES4eva]

Fixture 36 is up.
Well Chelsea only got 3 losses but of course some potential relegation sides once managed to beat us, then the other drew against us so MU catches up and lead by 3 pts.

But up next....
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United! 😄

 

[gabe.paul.logan]

United! 😄

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[PES4eva]

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No problem we'll hire him at a later date in hope of rekindling former glory lol