Re: Serie A Thread - 2010/11 Season
Gerd, will u stop apologizing every time u have a different opinion than mine! whenever u say "
sorry ben, but i got to disagree..." u make me feel guilty!
Milanista said:
I am Ben. I'm not a fan of players like Ibra. Milan has never really been a team that signed 'pricks' in football. I was a little harsh - yes, Ibra is doing well in Serie A, but I don't like that sort of game plan that requires him to be on the field and on form for us be effective. I've never been a fan of him and think he's good if he was the one the team relied on, but we have so much more quality than to become that kind of team.
u weren't harsh, stef. ibra most likely is a prick. personally i can't stand him. and there's no question that, as a fan i would get much more attached to a class act like seedorf..... but that's not really the most important thing imo. some of the greatests football players in history were pricks. (maradona being the most classc example). but we're not judjing "sympathy" here. the question here is "is ibra a good signing for 24 millions?". given what he's done so far in milan, i'd say he's been an amazing signing.
ibra is one of those very few players on the planet who can change the shape of a team just by himself. teams tend to rely on this sort of players, no matter how many other quality players they have, precisely because theese players are so special.
as for him wasting several scoring chances, that's absolutely normal because, unlike what most people tend to think, ibra is not a cf. he is a seconda punta by all means (just like di natale). the thing is he scores so many goals and tends to become the fulcrum of the team to such an extent that people end up considering him a cf (just like di natale).... but he isn't. and as soon as u consider him a seconda punta, his scoring ratio becomes just sensational.
ever since he left juventus, he's never scored less than 20 goals.... and for a seconda punta (whose main asset is not scoring goals but setting up scoring chances) this is an unbelievable ammount of goals.
however i gotta say, i kinda enjoy the huge lack of recognition ibra gets all over europe. there are lots of less talented and less succesful players in europe (who couldn't even dream to reach ibra's level) who get far more praise than him.... and since, like probably most of us here, i can't stand him, i find it quite hilarious and refreshing
milanista said:
These days it seems like we don't really score on the break unless we're already winning by a big margin, this is why I think Pato is being wasted. I want to see Pato-Cassano up front. We rarely cross and score through headers, so I want to see what happens if we play a fast ground passing game. In fact, I can imagine Ibra working well if Allegri encouraged our strikers to play like that rather than leave one up there on his own. It seems to always be either Pato or Cassano playing - I want Robinho benched to see how that works out, or Ibra benched once in a while.
yeah that would be interesting to see indeed. and probably we will. as u pointed out, ibra desperately needs some rest.
u also might have a point about him and pato being incompatible.
Younggun said:
Could Cassano not be a trequartista (along with another) and return to your Xmas tree formation?
well he has focused himself much more on providing assist than on scoring ever since he moved to milan, so yeah i guess it could happen. but allegri has found quite a nice balance with boateng playing like an "unusual trequartista", behind 2 forwards (ibra and cassano\pato), so i guess that'll be their gameplan (when all players are available).
). These days it seems like we don't really score on the break unless we're already winning by a big margin, this is why I think Pato is being wasted. I want to see Pato-Cassano up front. We rarely cross and score through headers, so I want to see what happens if we play a fast ground passing game. In fact, I can imagine Ibra working well if Allegri encouraged our strikers to play like that rather than leave one up there on his own. It seems to always be either Pato or Cassano playing - I want Robinho benched to see how that works out, or Ibra benched once in a while. 
